For Sale: Essential Medical Pack

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

We are pleased to introduce our bespoke medical kits, designed specifically for the UK Outdoor market - with stalkers in mind.

Our team has experience in pre-hospital, anaesthesia, surgery, emergency medicine and intensive care - not forgetting Mountain Rescue.

We designed these packs to be as compact as possible, whilst still cramming in as much useful equipment as we were able. We know that if these are too big, people won't carry them, and this isn't what we want. One of our complaints with nearly all packs on the market is that the storage solution isn't suitable for tough, outdoor use. Therefore, we partnered with Vanquest, to provide these kits in high quality and easy to access pouches.

We have spent much time developing what we think is needed in acute situations outdoors, without unnecessary extras that don't need to be carried around. Every single item in the kit has been included for a specific scenario, so if you have any questions about the reasoning, just ask.

This is the essential kit, however we also provide a larger kit, which has more trauma oriented content in addition. We also provide these extra items separately, if you want to customise your own with one or two of the extra items. For example, the average stalker may want the smaller kit, not want or need the added bulk of a pocket mask, but could add haemostatic gauze to make a solution that is complete for them.

We also understand that you will use items from these pouches. Therefore, if you buy our Packs, we will do our best to replace specific items that you use at low prices, just contact us if this is the case.

We genuinely want to make a difference to the safety of outdoor pursuits, so if several members would like Packs, please message me on here, and I will do my best to organise a discount for SD members as a group buy.

More details can be found on the links below, but if you have any questions, just drop me a message.

RPO Essential Medical Pack

Our company ethos is perfectly embodied in the design of our Essential Medical Pack. Top quality essential life saving items, each carefully selected for utility, size, weight, versatility and cost effectiveness. Description: The RPO Essential Medical Pack is a meticulously created collection...

rockypeakoutdoors.co.uk

Lifesaving Medical Equipment

As outdoor enthusiasts, we understand that every adventure comes with its own set of challenges, and safety should always be a top priority. We created RPO with the vision of not only making the outdoors accessible for everyone but also ensuring that its done safely. That's why we're thrilled to...

rockypeakoutdoors.co.uk

 

[Mungo]

Would you be able to fit in a roll or two of vet wrap (self adhesive bandage)?

I’ve found it enormously useful.

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

I think a roll would just about fit with everything else and allow relatively comfortable closure - but can check in more detail for you with a mock up.

Is this for securing dressings onto your dog? Or for other uses?

Kind regards

 

[Mungo]

I think a roll would just about fit with everything else and allow relatively comfortable closure - but can check in more detail for you with a mock up.

Is this for securing dressings onto your dog? Or for other uses?

Kind regards

I use them for securing dressings to people! Extremely quick and easy. Critically, they secure when everything is wet.

They’re so useful, I’ve wondered for a while why they’re not standard in first aid kits.

The other thing that’s enormously useful is the mini trauma bandages that are common in professional kitchens for knife cuts to fingers. Can be applied with one hand. And probably the most common injury for stalkers!

 

[Mungo]

I think a roll would just about fit with everything else and allow relatively comfortable closure - but can check in more detail for you with a mock up.

Is this for securing dressings onto your dog? Or for other uses?

Kind regards

I use them for securing dressings to people! Extremely quick and easy. Critically, they secure when everything is wet.

They’re so useful, I’ve wondered for a while why they’re not standard in first aid kits.

The other thing that’s enormously useful is the mini trauma bandages that are common in professional kitchens for knife cuts to fingers. Can be applied with one hand. And probably the most common injury for stalkers.

These things:

Sterile Finger Dressing

Sterile Finger Dressing from FirstAid4Sport.co.uk - Highly absorbent wound pad provides protection against infection and fits perfectly

www.firstaid4sport.co.uk

Probably use more of these than everything else put together.

 

[shakey jake]

sorry i was interested but couldnt see a way to stop data gathering, kept getting asked to ok your policy.
shame

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

I use them for securing dressings to people! Extremely quick and easy. Critically, they secure when everything is wet.

They’re so useful, I’ve wondered for a while why they’re not standard in first aid kits.

The other thing that’s enormously useful is the mini trauma bandages that are common in professional kitchens for knife cuts to fingers. Can be applied with one hand. And probably the most common injury for stalkers.

These things:

Sterile Finger Dressing​

Sterile Finger Dressing from FirstAid4Sport.co.uk - Highly absorbent wound pad provides protection against infection and fits perfectly

www.firstaid4sport.co.uk

Probably use more of these than everything else put together.

Thanks very much for the input, getting feedback from what people actually would like is genuinely appreciated. We can say what we use from a medical point of view, however there is always personal preference, so if people find items like this easier to use, we can include them in the future.

Our reasonings are as follows for both:
- Thanks for clarifying what you are using Vetrap for, 3M also make Coban, which is the more 'human' targeted product. Our justification is we think that a simple bandage and zinc oxide tape covers it's use case, and is more versatile. After applying a stretchy bandage, by cutting/tearing the last 15cm lengthways and tying around the limb, this should secure the bandage, even in the wet. Added zinc oxide tape, which is a firm, very sticky tape, should help to secure a dressing. Having tape allows other uses, splinting fingers for example. The self adhesive bandage products are usually latex based so also can be an issue for allergies.
- The finger dressings, I could see how they're easy to apply. Ultimately they're just some gauze with a bandage wrapped around, both of which are included in our pack.

Again, thanks for the ideas, and if people would like the convenience of them, we will definitely look to include. Our main issue is both items are relatively bulky, and we think what is included can do the job just as well. We wanted a 'totipotent' pack that can do everything for as little space as possible. But if the personal preference is there, we will accommodate this.

Kind regards

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

sorry i was interested but couldnt see a way to stop data gathering, kept getting asked to ok your policy.
shame

Sorry this isn't correct, we have been changing our web interactions and has been missed. Will get sorted today

Edit: I am pleased to report the issue with the cookie banner at the bottom has been resolved - you can now easily opt out of data collection.

 

[Mungo]

Thanks very much for the input, getting feedback from what people actually would like is genuinely appreciated. We can say what we use from a medical point of view, however there is always personal preference, so if people find items like this easier to use, we can include them in the future.

Our reasonings are as follows for both:
- Thanks for clarifying what you are using Vetrap for, 3M also make Coban, which is the more 'human' targeted product. Our justification is we think that a simple bandage and zinc oxide tape covers it's use case, and is more versatile. After applying a stretchy bandage, by cutting/tearing the last 15cm lengthways and tying around the limb, this should secure the bandage, even in the wet. Added zinc oxide tape, which is a firm, very sticky tape, should help to secure a dressing. Having tape allows other uses, splinting fingers for example. The self adhesive bandage products are usually latex based so also can be an issue for allergies.
- The finger dressings, I could see how they're easy to apply. Ultimately they're just some gauze with a bandage wrapped around, both of which are included in our pack.

Again, thanks for the ideas, and if people would like the convenience of them, we will definitely look to include. Our main issue is both items are relatively bulky, and we think what is included can do the job just as well. We wanted a 'totipotent' pack that can do everything for as little space as possible. But if the personal preference is there, we will accommodate this.

Kind regards

Thanks for that.

I find zinc oxide tape an absolute pain to deal with, and it can be extremely difficult to un stick from a roll - you can end up picking at it with finger nails and messing about with it for quite a while. Seems especially true of tape that’s got hot (sat in a car in summer, left in a back pack in the sun). Vet wrap doesn’t have this problem. The other advantage of vet wrap is it can be re used several times. In a pinch, it can be used as a form of dressing on its own. And it’s wonderful for doing things like strapping twisted ankles.

Really - I find it hard to over state just how useful and versatile it is.

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

Thanks for that.

I find zinc oxide tape an absolute pain to deal with, and it can be extremely difficult to un stick from a roll - you can end up picking at it with finger nails and messing about with it for quite a while. Seems especially true of tape that’s got hot (sat in a car in summer, left in a back pack in the sun). Vet wrap doesn’t have this problem. The other advantage of vet wrap is it can be re used several times. In a pinch, it can be used as a form of dressing on its own. And it’s wonderful for doing things like strapping twisted ankles.

Really - I find it hard to over state just how useful and versatile it is.

Thanks for sharing your own experiences. We find that the most useful equipment is what you are used to and comfortable with, so if you're happy and that's what you use, then it'll be the best for you.

We will look at ordering some with our next order from our supplier as an option for our kits if that is what people on here would like.

In the meantime, if you would like to place an order and add your own tape, just let me know. Especially if you are using Vetrap to replace a bandage, you can remove one of the bandages that is in there, and should provide plenty of room.

Kind regards

 

[McKenzie]

Can I ask how long to expect before products expiry dates kick in? I normally carry a kit but as thankfully I’ve never needed it everything tends to go out of date. It would be good to have a feel for how long it was good for.

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

Can I ask how long to expect before products expiry dates kick in? I normally carry a kit but as thankfully I’ve never needed it everything tends to go out of date. It would be good to have a feel for how long it was good for.

Of course. We know this can be an issue, and don't want people to spend money replacing kit yearly etc because of dates. This is why we work with UK suppliers and get the longest dates we can. Nearly everything in our kits currently are dated 2027 and onwards, often 2028. We are pleased with this outcome, given the nature of medical equipment. Occasionally, the date on things like steristrips/eye wash is a little shorter, but if you find yourself needing more, we will try and replace small items at as fair cost as possible, usually just at supplier cost.

 

[Overlay]

@Rocky Peak Outdoors

Do you have a pack that is HSAW
+F compliant and a cost please

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

@Rocky Peak Outdoors

Do you have a pack that is HSAW
+F compliant and a cost please

Thanks for the enquiry. Its an interesting question, as HSE don't actually have a standardised list that must be included; they have a list of what a first aid kit 'might contain', but also state that what your kit contains should be based on your 'first aid needs assessment'.

They suggest using BS8599 for individuals seeking a kit, as this guarantees a standard, but isn't required by law.

Our kits contain nearly all items on the 'personal issue kit' list from BS8599 anyway (and plenty of extra)! However, for example, they don't have the 10 plasters required, as we know most people won't want to lug that quantity around when out and about, nor would they need that quantity for one trip.
However, we can certainly make a kit up for you that ticks every box of BS8599 with all of the extras we provide, with the extras we think would actually be useful and appropriate given a forestry setting - so that you can prove you have all relevant standards if required.

The Forestry Commission in their guidelines also state "There is no mandatory list of items to put in a first aid kit as it depends on what you assess your needs to be based on possible accidents... ...The first aid kits contain listed minimum contents but Unit Managers must assess needs and provide additional equipment if necessary. British Standard BS 8599 can be used as a guide".

The principle with both of these guides appears to be to put the onus on the first aid assessment spelling out what is required on an individual bases, rather than one standardised compliant kit being available. Makes sense one way, can be frustrating thinking about it another.

It would have been much easier for me to say 'yes' its a good kit and we think covers the requirements, or 'no' because we didn't check the regulations. But we want to make sure you get the best kit for your circumstances and understand what is required of you.

It might be best you give us a private message, we can talk about exactly what is required from your kit, both contractually and, more importantly, for your personal safety.

A long answer I'm sorry, and not a straightforward answer, but I hope that clears it up a little. As I say, just give me a message and we'll sort you out.

Kind regards

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

To add, in the interests of clarity, this is BS 8599. There are four kits, for different purposes. We are proud to say that our 'Extended Medical Pack', that is available on our website, contains every item from all four of those kits, with the exception of eye pads and finger dressings. The exceptions are simple things, that can be made from gauze that are in our packs. Now the only rub is, as mentioned above, our kits don't contain all of the minimum quantities as set out in BS 8599. However, it could definitely be argued that these are not necessary for the individual worker, especially if they have to carry the kit around. As mentioned though, we can cram more in for you if necessary.

We use items such as haemostatic impregnated gauze, rather than a pen. If you have ever had to use this kind of equipment, you'll know how much more useful one is over the other. Ultimately, that's our goal - to create something that actually makes a difference should you need it. Also the inclusion of a SAM Splint, very useful in certain situations. If you haven't heard of it before, have a read up, and I think you'll be able to see why we like them. Equally a pocket mask, when you have carried out CPR regularly, you learn to appreciate these things. I am just trying to give examples of things we include for good reason, rather than just trying to make money selling something that 'ticks the boxes' in a nice bag.

Do let me know if these replies are too long and you have fallen asleep before getting to the end of the text!

 

[rab19]

Far from knocking the pack contents list as each situation calls for different solutions.
Just done my EFAW+F and it appears triangular bandages are out, just roll up patients top/jumper. CPR masks are out as no longer give breaths during CPR, just compressions.
What are in, are Celox bandages/granules, Israeli bandages and C.A.T's. Also Ordnance Locate app for your phone for calling in the chopper as ambulances won't go 10 metres off the road as well as registering your mobile with 112.

 

[Rocky Peak Outdoors]

Far from knocking the pack contents list as each situation calls for different solutions.
Just done my EFAW+F and it appears triangular bandages are out, just roll up patients top/jumper. CPR masks are out as no longer give breaths during CPR, just compressions.
What are in, are Celox bandages/granules, Israeli bandages and C.A.T's. Also Ordnance Locate app for your phone for calling in the chopper as ambulances won't go 10 metres off the road as well as registering your mobile with 112.

Thanks, couple of comments.
Triangular bandages are still very useful for various injuries that can’t be solved with a top/jumper.
It is extremely important to note that the recommendation of no longer giving breaths during CPR is for bystander first aid. For any individuals with CPR training, even a basic life support course, oxygenation with rescue breaths is still recommended. The simplification is so that for individuals who haven’t been trained to give mouth to mouth resuscitation, don’t waste time giving ineffective breaths - and should just carry out compressions. As with all of our medical kit, the items are aimed at the people trained to use themBeto give optimal results. Please look at latest resuscitation council guidelines as a reference for my statement.
In our extended medical pack, we have haemostatic gauze, trauma dressings and a tourniquet so have you covered there.

 

[countrryboy]

I'm just booking my refresher again, but leading on from the good advice rab gives above.

ALWAYS ask for the police not ambulance, they can make a decision to send mountain rescue out or a helicopter or ambulance depending on circumstances.
Ambulance will only send an ambulance if they refuse to go up a dirt track or can't wheel trolley to u they'll only call the police to get mountain rescue out and uve wasted a whole load of time.

 

[bowji john]

PM sent

 

[rab19]

Thanks, couple of comments.
Triangular bandages are still very useful for various injuries that can’t be solved with a top/jumper.
It is extremely important to note that the recommendation of no longer giving breaths during CPR is for bystander first aid. For any individuals with CPR training, even a basic life support course, oxygenation with rescue breaths is still recommended. The simplification is so that for individuals who haven’t been trained to give mouth to mouth resuscitation, don’t waste time giving ineffective breaths - and should just carry out compressions. As with all of our medical kit, the items are aimed at the people trained to use themBeto give optimal results. Please look at latest resuscitation council guidelines as a reference for my statement.
In our extended medical pack, we have haemostatic gauze, trauma dressings and a tourniquet so have you covered there.

I thought it was strange when the instructor stated no breaths, I even asked him, what if there are two people available to give first aid and he still said, "compressions only as there is enough oxygen to keep the brain ticking over", not much cop after half an hour.....
Personally I would still give breaths, CPR trained as you commented.