Europeans Immigrants

[VSS]

Quite, along with the other 2.3 million brits that have left these shore's, to move to Spain, Portugal, Australia, NZ, Croatia Cyprus, Bulgaria, Romania Poland, Germany, France, Italy, Skandinavia USA etc etc etc, figures show as many of us have moved to the EU countries as vica versa.
Shock Horror, some even work in foreign Hospitals.... IMO the real issue lies with the local population of lazy scrounging c***s that think its great to be getting paid for naff all and be paid to be featured on TV or in the Tabloids, the same tabloids that propagate the fear and anxiety about immigrants scrounging off us.

Quite so.

 

[Psyxologos]

Quite, along with the other 2.3 million brits that have left these shore's, to move to Spain, Portugal, Australia, NZ, Croatia Cyprus, Bulgaria, Romania Poland, Germany, France, Italy, Skandinavia USA etc etc etc, figures show as many of us have moved to the EU countries as vica versa.
Shock Horror, some even work in foreign Hospitals.... IMO the real issue lies with the local population of lazy scrounging c***s that think its great to be getting paid for naff all and be paid to be featured on TV or in the Tabloids, the same tabloids that propagate the fear and anxiety about immigrants scrounging off us.

 

[LuckyEddie]

correct they way work very hard but the vast majority of the money earned goes out of the country so its of little benefit to the economy

And where does the money that TATA make go or Abelio, Amazon, Apple, Ebay - it's not just the individual that takes money out of the country!

 

[howy308]

Quite, along with the other 2.3 million brits that have left these shore's, to move to Spain, Portugal, Australia, NZ, Croatia Cyprus, Bulgaria, Romania Poland, Germany, France, Italy, Skandinavia USA etc etc etc, figures show as many of us have moved to the EU countries as vica versa.
Shock Horror, some even work in foreign Hospitals.... IMO the real issue lies with the local population of lazy scrounging c***s that think its great to be getting paid for naff all and be paid to be featured on TV or in the Tabloids, the same tabloids that propagate the fear and anxiety about immigrants scrounging off us.

But they have not gone to pickpocket or run drugs or have teams of four beat up old men. They will not be bleeding the benefit system. They will have insurance for medical services. America, NZ and Australia are not in the EU. They go through the right procedure and live by the laws of the land. We have people come over and want to abide by there own laws. Some of the countries you mention do not allow ex cons we take the lot.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

The real issue lies with the local populations of lazy scrounging c***s that think its great to be getting paid for naff all and be paid to be featured on TV or in the Tabloids, the same tabloids that propagate the fear and anxiety about immigrants scrounging off us.
I rented some of my houses out to brit slappers over the years all with bunches of brats and no official man living with them and they were living all on welfare, it was a disaster they all wanted a newly painted & carpeted house to move into then they trashed it quickly and left.
I have a Philipino family in one since 2011 and they are my best tenant.
Martin

 

[rick6point5]

But they have not gone to pickpocket or run drugs or have teams of four beat up old men. They will not be bleeding the benefit system. They will have insurance for medical services. America, NZ and Australia are not in the EU. They go through the right procedure and live by the laws of the land. We have people come over and want to abide by there own laws. Some of the countries you mention do not allow ex cons we take the lot.

Howy I am aware of the EU Countries & policies of many others concerning immigration the hoops that need to be jumped through etc, maybe it reads different! however crime figures in this country do not stack up with it being foreign nationals who are the problem either in or out of prison, many other EU countries have released prison stats showing local v's foreign nationals, almost all show less locals compared to FN's however the UK figures I have seen show a very large UK born & bred figure compared to FN's, I might also add that the majority of street crime inc drug/robbery/mugging/violence are also UK resident not immigrants I do not disagree that our open door policy need reviewing, the immigration laws need revising or that we need better border controls, but I would strongly suggest that the media and politicians do well to hide the real issues. Many of my concerns with the way things are certainly do not include FN's street crime, far more serious global problems, multi national & corporate crimes go unpunished that have a much larger and widespread effect, maybe more than we can fathom.

 

[rodp]

subtle, as someone who is going to be a immigrant as of March 1st, I would hate to think, that the people of NZ were thinking the same about me.

Believe me, if you went out there to live off welfare whilst working cash in hand in a car wash or restaurant, used their health service free of charge, had 10 kids and claimed for 15 and demanded they give you a 5 bedroom house they would think very badly of you. ...................... Oh, hang on, no they wouldn't ................. you would have been deported well before that stage.

 

[rodp]

Howy I am aware of the EU Countries & policies of many others concerning immigration the hoops that need to be jumped through etc, maybe it reads different! however crime figures in this country do not stack up with it being foreign nationals who are the problem either in or out of prison, many other EU countries have released prison stats showing local v's foreign nationals, almost all show less locals compared to FN's however the UK figures I have seen show a very large UK born & bred figure compared to FN's, I might also add that the majority of street crime inc drug/robbery/mugging/violence are also UK resident not immigrants I do not disagree that our open door policy need reviewing, the immigration laws need revising or that we need better border controls, but I would strongly suggest that the media and politicians do well to hide the real issues. Many of my concerns with the way things are certainly do not include FN's street crime, far more serious global problems, multi national & corporate crimes go unpunished that have a much larger and widespread effect, maybe more than we can fathom.

RP, can I ask how close you live to a large Asian immigrant population ? Are you more or less yards away from hundreds, or even thousands, of them?

 

[rick6point5]

Leicester for 3 yrs might qualify, you?

 

[tom308w]

The Muslims are the worst of the lot trying to take over the world want there one laws whilst milking the benefit system and sending all there money out of the country look at how many of these are fighting in Syria / Iraq then coming back here to sign on and moan about the country

 

[palmer_mike]

Believe me, if you went out there to live off welfare whilst working cash in hand in a car wash or restaurant, used their health service free of charge, had 10 kids and claimed for 15 and demanded they give you a 5 bedroom house they would think very badly of you. ...................... Oh, hang on, no they wouldn't ................. you would have been deported well before that stage.

if you have specific suspicions of benefit fraud I hope you have reported them to the relevant authority.

 

[ELMER FUDD]

A turkey farm which I manage the foxes at has a lot of Polish people working for him who now live in caravans at the farm with their families and he said they are such good workers who he pays normal agricultural wages as a reward and not rip them off as others do.

He said he could leave them alone all day as they knew what had to be done and got on with it, even starting hours before they were meant to if they had a rush on.

Going off the point a bit, did anyone else see the Winston Churchill documentary yesterday when they said he lost the vote and Prime ministers post when he said he didn't want any Indian or Pakistani people living in England.

 

[howy308]

Howy I am aware of the EU Countries & policies of many others concerning immigration the hoops that need to be jumped through etc, maybe it reads different! however crime figures in this country do not stack up with it being foreign nationals who are the problem either in or out of prison, many other EU countries have released prison stats showing local v's foreign nationals, almost all show less locals compared to FN's however the UK figures I have seen show a very large UK born & bred figure compared to FN's, I might also add that the majority of street crime inc drug/robbery/mugging/violence are also UK resident not immigrants I do not disagree that our open door policy need reviewing, the immigration laws need revising or that we need better border controls, but I would strongly suggest that the media and politicians do well to hide the real issues. Many of my concerns with the way things are certainly do not include FN's street crime, far more serious global problems, multi national & corporate crimes go unpunished that have a much larger and widespread effect, maybe more than we can fathom.

Rick figures can be altered very easily. I know a little about both the upkeeping of the law and the prison service. My wife has been in the prison service for 16 years and in the police before that and I can tell you the stats do not add up for the prisons she worked at. Just hang around a London train station and count how many teams of immigrants try to pick your pocket. There are as many foreign nationals the same as the population of Sheffield they cannot find as released by the home office and thats what they know about so how many really are here.

 

[stirts]

Echo the above, couldn't get a reliable English couple to replicate the brilliant couple we have to help (with all sorts) That being said, paying for offshore crims to shelter here at HM Pleasure isn't on (re the poor bloke beaten by four thugs... In the press yesterday)

 

[rodp]

Leicester for 3 yrs might qualify, you?

About half a mile at most from Lye, ....... for 30 years !!! makes Leicester look positively pale.

You moved then I notice ?

 

[rick6point5]

Rick figures can be altered very easily. I know a little about both the upkeeping of the law and the prison service. My wife has been in the prison service for 16 years and in the police before that and I can tell you the stats do not add up for the prisons she worked at. Just hang around a London train station and count how many teams of immigrants try to pick your pocket. There are as many foreign nationals the same as the population of Sheffield they cannot find as released by the home office and thats what they know about so how many really are here.

For sure they are, as I mentioned, real issues are well hidden by those with 'other agenda's or media control, the stats I was referring to were propagated outside the UK so limited UK government censorship but not immune from it!
I have never said FN's do not contribute or create problems and get involved in crime from major to minor, but we are very quick to point the finger at outsiders, when evidence indicates we have a home grown criminal fraternity that stand out as being extremely well organised, have a finger in many pies and who show complete disregard for any form of moral or law enforcement, in many instances these are the same people who are taking advantage of not only our very slack benefits policies, but also taking advantage of those immigrants we are talking about for their own gains and let them get caught with the 'smoking gun'

 

[rodp]

if you have specific suspicions of benefit fraud I hope you have reported them to the relevant authority.

yes, and yes. The response ? Zero, zilch, nothing, nowt ............ as usual !

You need to live around these sort of area's to see what goes on.

 

[rick6point5]

Yeah ironically I went abroad..!

 

[rodp]

Yeah ironically I went abroad..!

Plenty of houses for sale around the Lye area if you want to move up here, you may enjoy the multicultural society we have

 

[howy308]

For sure they are, as I mentioned, real issues are well hidden by those with 'other agenda's or media control, the stats I was referring to were propagated outside the UK so limited UK government censorship but not immune from it!
I have never said FN's do not contribute or create problems and get involved in crime from major to minor, but we are very quick to point the finger at outsiders, when evidence indicates we have a home grown criminal fraternity that stand out as being extremely well organised, have a finger in many pies and who show complete disregard for any form of moral or law enforcement, in many instances these are the same people who are taking advantage of not only our very slack benefits policies, but also taking advantage of those immigrants we are talking about for their own gains and let them get caught with the 'smoking gun'

I do not disagree but surely we have enough problems of our own to take care of we are far from perfect at that, so why should we take on any other countries cast offs. Does the good ones outway the bad. As you keep mentioning about the benefit system,we have enough unemployed to train up for the the jobs that the foreigners take.There are a lot people say will not work but if there easy monies were stopped altogether they would soon take any job. Crime pays, until we have a system of punishment without dogooders and human rights it will continue there is nothing the criminals fear. We have enough rubbish going on in the country without anyone elses