F1 bullschitt,heavy handed **** decision.

[John Gryphon]

McLaren disqualified from Las Vegas GP

Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri were referred to the stewards after finishing second and fourth respectively, when post-race checks revealed

speedcafe.com

 

[User00056]

That seems pretty unfair

 

[jall55]

Its a sport based on engineering with tiny margins however

So correct decision IMHO

 

[User00056]

Its a sport based on engineering with tiny margins however

So correct decision IMHO

I can't see how any race advantage is gained by a 0.12mm deviation from the stipulated wear plate thickness, especially given the reasons provided in defence. Seems to me to be a pretty unfair decision based purely on an insignificant technicality

 

[scotch_egg]

A bit like Guy Martin’s pit lane speed infringement.

It is a quantifiable infringement. It doesn’t matter how small it may be, the rule is broken.

 

[Lateral]

I can't see how any race advantage is gained by a 0.12mm deviation from the stipulated wear plate thickness, especially given the reasons provided in defence. Seems to me to be a pretty unfair decision based purely on an insignificant technicality

Or less so the .07mm, BUT engineering tolerances are measured to fractions of one thousandth of one inch, and whilst tiny, either they stick to the rules, or the rules are worthless ?

I must admit, that had it have been the Red Bull cars, I'd be far happier, as I suspect would a lot of people

 

[jall55]

I can't see how any race advantage is gained by a 0.12mm deviation from the stipulated wear plate thickness, especially given the reasons provided in defence. Seems to me to be a pretty unfair decision based purely on an insignificant technicality

Is that not the same as so much - in the very same race Kimi was penalised for moving not 1 cm as a false start
Rules are rules as they say - like a footy player is offside by a toe - so on and so on

 

[jall55]

Or less so the .07mm, BUT engineering tolerances are measured to fractions of one thousandth of one inch, and whilst tiny, either they stick to the rules, or the rules are worthless ?

I must admit, that had it have been the Red Bull cars, I'd be far happier, as I suspect would a lot of people

Not me GO MAX !!!

 

[NoIDeer]

It's a good rule for a good reason so out of tolerance is just that. The team knew it was on the limit so there are no excuses.
Gutted for them.

 

[NewForester]

McLaren disqualified from Las Vegas GP

Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri were referred to the stewards after finishing second and fourth respectively, when post-race checks revealed

speedcafe.com

Will result in an exciting end to the season.

 

[John Gryphon]

Will result in an exciting end to the season.

like when MV was handed a title over Lewis?

 

[Bo Diddley]

Will result in an exciting end to the season.

Well, that's a surprise... not .. talk about engineering and F1, they put most of the engineering into producing an "Exciting" season, talk about inventing so many rules & regs so they give the crowd the excitement.
It reminds me of watching the 1970s wrestling with Giant Haystacks V Big Daddy..
I dropped out watching after the Senna/Mansell/Nelson Piquet era... started watching it as a kid in the Team Lotus JPS era.

Enjoy the final race, chaps

 

[jall55]

Well, that's a surprise... not .. talk about engineering and F1, they put most of the engineering into producing an "Exciting" season, talk about inventing so many rules & regs so they give the crowd the excitement.
It reminds me of watching the 1970s wrestling with Giant Haystacks V Big Daddy..
I dropped out watching after the Senna/Mansell/Nelson Piquet era... started watching it as a kid in the Team Lotus JPS era.

Enjoy the final race, chaps

Not really mate - the rules are all there before they start
Some of the driving yesterday at 220 mph was incredible if you think about it too

 

[User00056]

It's a good rule for a good reason so out of tolerance is just that. The team knew it was on the limit so there are no excuses.
Gutted for them.

Been thinking about it a bit. And I've changed my opinion as a result. I've read that the planks limit the minimum ride height, and a new one is 10mm. So they had a 10% allowance which seems pretty generous. And as races or qualifying laps can be won by milliseconds I imagine even the tiniest gain in downforce could result in a win, or a better start position

 

[AM_Lillycombe]

I think that there is already president for disqualification for this exact infringement (maybe Hamilton and Hulkenberg this season) so at least it is fair.

 

[DavyG]

A bit like saying, “only missed that Stag by a hair”. Still missed.

 

[cjm1066]

Go but to the ground effect cars of the early 1980s and the regulators attempt at controlling ride height - Gordan Murray got around them easily.

The plank is simple and effective.

Great shame for Mclaren, perhaps good for the championship.

 

[Gunner223]

I can't see how any race advantage is gained by a 0.12mm deviation from the stipulated wear plate thickness, especially given the reasons provided in defence. Seems to me to be a pretty unfair decision based purely on an insignificant technicality

The lower you go, the faster you go , to stop the wear they would have to lift the ride height approx 1mm which means they would have qualified a few places lower down the grid.

 

[Emilio]

If the teams tells Norris to slow down, they know they made a mistake.
The big question is why Piastry wasn't told to slow down also....

 

[User00056]

The lower you go, the faster you go , to stop the wear they would have to lift the ride height approx 1mm which means they would have qualified a few places lower down the grid.

Yeah, I figured that out once I'd thought about it and read up a bit. Cheers