Factory or reload ?

[old 30-06]

After nearly three months of hassle and faff my variation has finally been granted. I can now own and take to Africa a 375 H and H. This is the good news. However, I am only allowed to possess 50 rounds of ammunition ! I could rant on for hours and hours about how silly this is, but it is what it is, and I intend to get on with it.

The question that is raised is a simple one, should I buy, or should I reload ? After a lot of thought I am inclined to go down the reloading route. Do you agree, or disagree. Has anyone else had similar problems, and am I making the right decision ?

 

[Stumpy2]

Both! Buy factory made and try/practice with factory whilst collecting cases to reload. You will have a factory backup load whilst you work up reloads which gives you options.

Your 50 round limit is for loaded rounds remember, you can have more prepared brass ready to reload whenever you need it

 

[Tazz]

Officially you can’t take homeload’s on a plane from U.K. t There is plenty of quality factory ammunition around

 

[Donkey Basher]

Officially you can’t take homeload’s on a plane from U.K. t There is plenty of quality factory ammunition around

Can you provide the source of this information please? - it’s a new one on me. Whenever I’ve flown with ammunition the requirement of the airlines has simply been that ammunition is contained in manufacturers packaging, which for me has been the mom boxes I put my reloaded ammunition in.

 

[Tazz]

Can you provide the source of this information please? - it’s a new one on me. Whenever I’ve flown with ammunition the requirement of the airlines has simply been that ammunition is contained in manufacturers packaging, which for me has been the mom boxes I put my reloaded ammunition in.

This from the internet re flying with ammunition. The airlines that still take firearms often have their own take on the detail. On a recent trip to Turkey the Turkish border force opened every box of ammo counted them and checked they matched the box. Below is straight from Google

AI Overview
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When flying from the UK with rifle ammunition, you must pack it in its original manufacturer's packaging, securely, and in checked baggage, with a maximum of 5kg gross mass per person.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Checked Baggage Only: Ammunition is permitted in checked baggage only, not in carry-on luggage.
Secure Packaging: Pack the ammunition in its original manufacturer's carton

 

[Donkey Basher]

So no restriction on reloaded ammunition, just pack in the manufacturers original cartoon - I manufactured it & packed it in mtm boxes I’ve also packed it in original manufacturers boxes too as it takes up less space. When packing in manufacturers boxes I always put each one in a ziplock bag in case the box came open.

 

[jthyttin]

If somebody takes your ammo away either departing or arriving, or refuses to let you on plane -> no matter whether you're right or wrong the trip is spoiled.

I'd take cautionary approach by finding nice factory load and duplicating it for convenience. Better yet, if it's available in Africa too (ask the PH etc. if you have something booked). I'd also get a tumbler, and store the original factory boxes at home not in range bag (if you're even allowed to zero and practice in UK).

 

[cjm1066]

No issues flying to South Africa with reloads.

 

[Tazz]

After nearly three months of hassle and faff my variation has finally been granted. I can now own and take to Africa a 375 H and H. This is the good news. However, I am only allowed to possess 50 rounds of ammunition ! I could rant on for hours and hours about how silly this is, but it is what it is, and I intend to get on with it.

The question that is raised is a simple one, should I buy, or should I reload ? After a lot of thought I am inclined to go down the reloading route. Do you agree, or disagree. Has anyone else had similar problems, and am I making the right decision ?

On your ticket are you allowed to zero it in this country. For my 300 wm initially mine was not but I challenged it and can now zero it on ranges in the U.K.

 

[jb1]

On your ticket are you allowed to zero it in this country. For my 300 wm initially mine was not but I challenged it and can now zero it on ranges in the U.K.

I applied for a 9.3 and and had restrictions put on, max 20 rounds and use embarkation only, challenged the ridiculous decision and questioned what happens when a wild Boar charges towards me and ive no idea where the bullets going. The restriction was lifted and ammo increased to 50 and use opened for use in UK.

Also reloads always taken to Croatia, never been questioned outbound or inbound and checked at Heathrow and Zagreb, maybe just lucky.

 

[JTO]

Do Norma primers still have 'np' stamped on them to make sure they can be identified as original?
I think I asked this before, but can't remember the reponse!

 

[Tazz]

I applied for a 9.3 and and had restrictions put on, max 20 rounds and use embarkation only, challenged the ridiculous decision and questioned what happens when a wild Boar charges towards me and ive no idea where the bullets going. The restriction was lifted and ammo increased to 50 and use opened for use in UK.

Also reloads always taken to Croatia, never been questioned outbound or inbound and checked at Heathrow and Zagreb, maybe just lucky.

On my 300 wm I was able to challenge and change so I could zero in the U.K. and also get the round count upped to 160

 

[Border]

Do Norma primers still have 'np' stamped on them to make sure they can be identified as original?
I think I asked this before, but can't remember the reponse!

No

 

[suburban bushwacker]

Officially you can’t take homeload’s on a plane from U.K. t There is plenty of quality factory ammunition around

I suspect youre right, could I ask if you have a citation? I met Swedish competitors who couldn't fly with hand loads but i've also flown with my homelands no questions asked

 

[JTO]

Do shooters using chamberings for which no factory ammo is available have to do all their handloads when they get to their destination?
thinking about .284W users going to the F-Class world championships!

 

[webley701]

With a niggardly allowance of 50 rounds (which should be challenged) if you are going to use only factory ammunition then once you’ve decided on which brand/load to use, get your local dealer to buy & hold at least 200 rounds for you & then draw off them as required.

 

[JonC]

There are no regulations regarding flying with handloaded ammunition. As long as the ammunition is adequately packaged and under 5kg, it's perfectly normal to transport, and I have done so frequently.

 

[JonC]

Do shooters using chamberings for which no factory ammo is available have to do all their handloads when they get to their destination?
thinking about .284W users going to the F-Class world championships!

Many make arrangements to get their ammo pre-made and shipped to their destination by hazmat courier. Others take the hit and make sure they have access to the necessary component and loading equipment once they arrive.....

 

[Smellydog]

What stoopid country.
You can chuck a chunk o lead from a 45/70 but you can't from a 375 h&h.

 

[Tazz]

I suspect youre right, could I ask if you have a citation? I met Swedish competitors who couldn't fly with hand loads but i've also flown with my homelands no questions asked

I posted on an earlier thread straight from the net that ammunition should be in original packaging. Having flown on hunting trips a dozen plus times I have only had my ammo checked 3 times, however it is a risk if you get pedantic/jobs worth to your trip. It’s not an issue I will ever face as I shoot quality factory in every caliber