For those who use a machete (for work), or collect bayonets - do we need to be worried?

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C h r i s

C h r i s

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Just seen this... if this ever gets passed as law then I wonder what would happen to the old Mosin Nagant Model 1944 Carbine:

Consultation on new knife legislation proposals to tackle the use of machetes and other bladed articles in crime (accessible)


"We are also consulting on whether to provide the police with additional powers to enable them to seize, retain and destroy bladed articles of any length held in private, or whether the powers should be limited to articles of a certain length, even if the items themselves are not prohibited. "
 
Check out proposal 1:

  • Proposal 1: Introduction of a targeted ban of certain types of large knives that seem to be designed to look menacing with no practical purpose. :rofl:
 
C h r i s said:
Just seen this... if this ever gets passed as law then I wonder what would happen to the old Mosin Nagant Model 1944 Carbine:

Consultation on new knife legislation proposals to tackle the use of machetes and other bladed articles in crime (accessible)


"We are also consulting on whether to provide the police with additional powers to enable them to seize, retain and destroy bladed articles of any length held in private, or whether the powers should be limited to articles of a certain length, even if the items themselves are not prohibited. "
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I have not read the proposals, but I believe we should covered by " reasonable excuse" ( Prevention of Crime Act 1953, sec 1 ) in that we would be in possession of a machette, or similar articles in pursuance of our trade or legitimate activities. I carry one whilst out shooting in a scabbard for brashing etc, it hangs next to my gralloching knife on my trouser belt loop, but I would add that there could and should be derogations of sorts for folk like us

Patrick
 
long_range_rob said:
More BS legislation that duplicates existing law. Any bladed article without good reason is already banned so why ban it again? Sound bite politics for the mass media and with an eye on the next general election
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Exactly this..it’s all to make Joe Public feel better/vote winner antics..and it only serves one purpose..to further restrict/hinder Genuine folk going about their lawful business.
 
long_range_rob said:
More BS legislation that duplicates existing law. Any bladed article without good reason is already banned so why ban it again? Sound bite politics for the mass media and with an eye on the next general election
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They are complaining that they may raid a house and find machetes, but not able to seize them if in someone's house.

This new provision does concern me, that they propose taking property because they don't like it, even if not used / carried outdoors.
 
Don’t we need a committee to help us with this and what can be permitted:

You cook a whole turkey for Christmas 10” caving knife.

Turkey for Christmas 8” caving knife.

Rump steak 6” steak knife.

Eat at McDonalds – no knife needed.

Ditto vegetarians.
 
What concerns me is their look to outright ban rather than require "good reason". It looks like proposal 1 is actively asking if the modern UK needs traditional tools such as machetes anymore.

Well, I can think of many bushcraft enthusiast who would fall foul from owning a machete or kukri.


As has been previously said, this looks to be introducing a law that shouldn't be needed as these blades are already covered under the existing law.

The fact that the law can't differentiate between my locking Leatherman, and a fella in London with a big kitchen knife down his jogging bottoms, means the law is an ass
 
Well, I've just wasted half an hour filling it in. Mostly saying that they should not have presented these proposals for public consultation until they were able to provide solid evidence on the scale of the problem and expert judgements on the impact the new powers may have on it. The only bits I felt I was able to fill in usefully, were those that asked respondents to explain what kinds of bladed tools were useful for legitimate purposes and why.
 
Was told that when they go to report to police station one was seen on video taking a weapon from his trouser leg before going in.
Will it be electric carvers next and chainsaws.
 
I can't see this as being viable. Apart from the hunting fraternity there must be tens of thousands of people who use bladed articles of all sizes in their work so a blanket ban just won't work.
 
Somehow I dont think the youth of Salisbury, or Witney, Jedburgh are carrying bladed articles to slice up their opposition, but are in Birmingham, London and west Yorkshire.

What on earth could be the common denominator? ....

The middle classes snorting coke on weekends need to grow up and take responsibility.
 
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