Garmin Xero C1 chrono vs. Athlon Rangecraft Chrono

[Trickyd66]

It works fine, I've used it extensively indoors.

Thanks, that's good to kno.

 

[nic531]

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[Sabian223]

Anyone tried the Athlon in an enclosed indoor range? The blurb I've read suggests it may not work?
Thanks

Used it in a 100 metre indoor (concrete) range, worked flawlessly.

 

[Sabian223]

Used it in a 100 metre indoor (concrete) range, worked flawlessly.

 

[Trickyd66]

Used it in a 100 metre indoor (concrete) range, worked flawlessly.

Should have updated you.... pulled the trigger so to speak, and got one.
Only used with the LR so far, but in a tunnel range (and it is actually the top half of an old road tunnel so about 7m wide by 2m high) Shooting 1.5m from a wall to the right, through an aperture, with my daughter shooting 1.5m to my left (22LR)

Picked up all my shots and none of hers.

So far we'll happy... just need to play with the app.

 

[cjm1066]

In the interests of accuracy after 556 shots my garmin failed to record a shot, the error message came up, my fault I suspect, I moved it an inch or 2 and it was fine thereafter.

 

[Cottis]

Few months down the line now, any updates on user experience on Athlon versus Garmin. I keep meaning to get round to updating my chrono and was about to buy the Garmin and then remembered there was another one and found this old thread.

Is there basically any utility in the Garmin over the Athlon. From what I can gather it does not appear to be the case, so guessing I might as well plump for the Athlon unless there is any info that suggests the Garmin will enjoy better longevity. They both look very similar to me though.

Cheers for any further info anyone might have.

 

[trickie]

I’ve ran both side by side mine is the Athlon my Buddies the Garmin.

We have ran both either side of these on multiple occasions apart from the Anschutz
22 LR Anschutz Match 54
Tikka 6.5 CreedMoor
Tikka 223 Rem
605 Creedmoor AI (not mine)
308 Competion rifle.

Over 3 months.
They both recorded every shot
The Athlon read slightly higher fps Between 2 and 4 fps, majority only 3 fps
The SD and ES in EVERY case read exactly the same.

There are a few things to take from this.
The difference in readings are not statistically significant.
Argon’s faster FPS reading may just be down to newer technology reading the projectile a very short distance closer to the muzzle.

Longevity:
Garmin, has a proven track record.
Athlon also has a good record, however this technology is new to them and therefore unproven.

The cost difference is significant (if you disagree with me on this just stop reading and buy the Garmin).
2 of the Garmin can be used to work out the BC of your projectile. This is not a current option for the Garmin and I have no idea if it’s an option for the future.

Both myself and my buddy are very happy with our devices

 

[Cottis]

I’ve ran both side by side mine is the Athlon my Buddies the Garmin.

We have ran both either side of these on multiple occasions apart from the Anschutz
22 LR Anschutz Match 54
Tikka 6.5 CreedMoor
Tikka 223 Rem
605 Creedmoor AI (not mine)
308 Competion rifle.

Over 3 months.
They both recorded every shot
The Athlon read slightly higher fps Between 2 and 4 fps, majority only 3 fps
The SD and ES in EVERY case read exactly the same.

There are a few things to take from this.
The difference in readings are not statistically significant.
Argon’s faster FPS reading may just be down to newer technology reading the projectile a very short distance closer to the muzzle.

Longevity:
Garmin, has a proven track record.
Athlon also has a good record, however this technology is new to them and therefore unproven.

The cost difference is significant (if you disagree with me on this just stop reading and buy the Garmin).
2 of the Garmin can be used to work out the BC of your projectile. This is not a current option for the Garmin and I have no idea if it’s an option for the future.

Both myself and my buddy are very happy with our devices

That's great. Thank you for your overview based on quality usage.

The best bit of your review is that both produced effectively the same SD and ES which is really the important bit in terms of them being accurate relative to each shot rather than to each other. A coupla three FPS here and there is of no importance to me and I have a magnetospeed which can be tested again, so your review is perfect. Athlon it is.

Thanks again.

 

[Kiwiguy]

That's great. Thank you for your overview based on quality usage.

The best bit of your review is that both produced effectively the same SD and ES which is really the important bit in terms of them being accurate relative to each shot rather than to each other. A coupla three FPS here and there is of no importance to me and I have a magnetospeed which can be tested again, so your review is perfect. Athlon it is.

Thanks again.

After doing a fair amount of research I decided to buy the Labradar LX. I have owned the original Labradar since 2016 and it hasn't missed a beat.
The two reasons I went with the Labradar LX are, firstly its ability to calculate BC after the user inputs the barometric pressure and temperature.
But the main reason is the ability to add more shots to a previous series. Often I take more than one rifle to the range and I am very careful not to allow my barrels to get hot. With the new LX I can shoot say 3 shots (eg 6.5-284)and then put that rifle aside. Start a new series and shoot 3 rounds of 22-250. Then I can go back to the 6.5-284 series and add more shots.
As far as I am aware none of the other chronographs have this option.

 

[Cottis]

After doing a fair amount of research I decided to buy the Labradar LX. I have owned the original Labradar since 2016 and it hasn't missed a beat.
The two reasons I went with the Labradar LX are, firstly its ability to calculate BC after the user inputs the barometric pressure and temperature.
But the main reason is the ability to add more shots to a previous series. Often I take more than one rifle to the range and I am very careful not to allow my barrels to get hot. With the new LX I can shoot say 3 shots (eg 6.5-284)and then put that rifle aside. Start a new series and shoot 3 rounds of 22-250. Then I can go back to the 6.5-284 series and add more shots.
As far as I am aware none of the other chronographs have this option.

I didn't realise they had produced a new variant more in line with the smaller, tripod based design. I will have to have a better look later but a quick scan and it looks good. Positioning of the buttons certainly look better than the other two options I was considering.

Thanks for that.

 

[trickie]

That's great. Thank you for your overview based on quality usage.

The best bit of your review is that both produced effectively the same SD and ES which is really the important bit in terms of them being accurate relative to each shot rather than to each other. A coupla three FPS here and there is of no importance to me and I have a magnetospeed which can be tested again, so your review is perfect. Athlon it is.

Thanks again.

Thanks,

I forgot to add this:
The Athlon has the ability to delete individual shoots from the results from each string (if you need to). I’ve used it once after some Richard Head moved a few of my rounds. At the time I had loads of 130gr Bergers and 136gr Lapua Scenar L in the same box different sides he moved two Bergers into the wrong side.
I only noticed when I had 2 extra rounds above the 10 loaded.

 

[trickie]

After doing a fair amount of research I decided to buy the Labradar LX. I have owned the original Labradar since 2016 and it hasn't missed a beat.
The two reasons I went with the Labradar LX are, firstly its ability to calculate BC after the user inputs the barometric pressure and temperature.
But the main reason is the ability to add more shots to a previous series. Often I take more than one rifle to the range and I am very careful not to allow my barrels to get hot. With the new LX I can shoot say 3 shots (eg 6.5-284)and then put that rifle aside. Start a new series and shoot 3 rounds of 22-250. Then I can go back to the 6.5-284 series and add more shots.
As far as I am aware none of the other chronographs have this option.

I haven’t seen the new Labradar version in the flesh. I’d expect it to at least be on par with the other two or better.
The price point would be an issue for me, with a case it’s £150 above the Athlon.

I haven’t looked at added shots to the string, but I expect your correct and it’s a no go. If I remember on Thursday I’ll try

The simple ability to do that does save a bit of time and effort doing the maths by hand