Gosh not more good news

[Tugmanade]

Sounds promising for now, I know someone’s bound to pee on my bonfire though.

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BREAKING: NRW shelves licensing for gamebird release​

This morning we received news that your response has halted the Welsh Government’s plans to license the release of pheasants and partridges. Natural Resources Wales (NRW) told us that it has it shelved plans to license the release of game birds for the 2024/25 season and that it has discussed with Welsh Government ministers whether licensing will be required at all in the future. NRW had previously stated that over 42,000 people responded to its consultation and we believe that vast bulk of those came from the shooting community, who were opposed to the licensing of gamebird release as it would have provided a vehicle for politicians to progressively restrict shooting. We have also warned Ministers that the overwhelming impression in rural communities is that this is just another episode of ‘Cardiff against the countryside’. Game shooting has huge environmental, social and economic benefits for rural communities and our advice to the government would be to drop the proposal completely or face a bitter fight with countryside. For us to continue to stand up for the sport you love, we need your support. If you are not already a member, please join the Countryside Alliance today or donate to support our work.

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Countryside Alliance membership includes; Access to dedicated experts who are working to influence all political parties' policies. Comprehensive insurance cover for all your hunting, shooting and country pursuit needs. Our membership magazine, My Countryside, which is packed with expert insights and updates on our work. Thank you so much for supporting this campaign and, whilst we have more to do, today’s result shows that when we campaign together our voice cannot be ignored.

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[timbrayford]

And hopefully all this woke save the planet nonsense too

 

[Goingback]

Good news and a pat on the back for all of those who signed the petition. Those who didn't - shame...........'The North remembers'

 

[mealiejimmy]

And hopefully all this woke save the planet nonsense too

The OPs news is certainly good and I thoroughly welcome it, but would you please define what you mean by "woke"
From the frequent use of the term on this and other forums it seems, for many people, to mean anything you don't like or disagree with.
Is that how you define it, or do you have specific criteria of things you don't like that aren't "woke" ?

Cheers

Bruce

 

[timbrayford]

The OPs news is certainly good and I thoroughly welcome it, but would you please define what you mean by "woke"
From the frequent use of the term on this and other forums it seems, for many people, to mean anything you don't like or disagree with.
Is that how you define it, or do you have specific criteria of things you don't like that aren't "woke" ?

Cheers

Bruce

Just get an online dictionary and save me and the rest of the world a waste of time discussion!

 

[Goingback]

Definition - Woke - past tense of time of arousal and consciousness from sleep. Other meanings - some right on hipster sh*te

 

[VSS]

The OPs news is certainly good and I thoroughly welcome it, but would you please define what you mean by "woke"
From the frequent use of the term on this and other forums it seems, for many people, to mean anything you don't like or disagree with.
Is that how you define it, or do you have specific criteria of things you don't like that aren't "woke" ?

Cheers

Bruce

I asked that question once before on here. Apparently it means being aware of one's social responsibilities. So it's actually rather a good thing. Quite why it's become the go-to derogatory term used on this site to define anyone who's views are opposed to one's own I really don't know.
And as for all this "save the planet nonsense", we, meaning us who really on vibrant healthy ecosystems for our recreation (and in some cases our employment) should not be dismissive of environmental concerns.
I think the disregard shown by many SD members to environmental issues is one of the poorest things about what is otherwise a very good site.

 

[Goingback]

I asked that question once before on here. Apparently it means being aware of one's social responsibilities. So it's actually rather a good thing. Quite why it's become the go-to derogatory term used on this site to define anyone who's views are opposed to one's own I really don't know.
And as for all this "save the planet nonsense", we, meaning us who really on vibrant healthy ecosystems for our recreation (and in some cases our employment) should not be dismissive of environmental concerns.
I think the disregard shown by many SD members to environmental issues is one of the poorest things about what is otherwise a very good site.

We are not dismissive of environmental concerns but I feel that collectively we (shooting/farming community) have a far more realistic approach to our environment. Re-wilding - sustainable and sensible re-wilding, yes. Planting tree,solar panels on good productive farmland - no! Jeremy Vine at lunchtime stated that as a committed re-wilder, he would be happy for the reintroduction of lions into Wales! If that is woke, then its a joke

 

[VSS]

We are not dismissive of environmental concerns but I feel that collectively we (shooting/farming community) have a far more realistic approach to our environment. Re-wilding - sustainable and sensible re-wilding, yes. Planting tree,solar panels on good productive farmland - no! Jeremy Vine at lunchtime stated that as a committed re-wilder, he would be happy for the reintroduction of lions into Wales! If that is woke, then its a joke

No, that's not woke. That's just someone making stupid remarks with the aim of generating controversy.

As for the environmental concerns, the default response on this site seems to be to pour ridicule and scorn onto anyone who raises such issues when they don't align 100% with our own ideals. Instead we should be looking for common ground, of which there is lots.

 

[Dickie]

No, that's not woke. That's just someone making stupid remarks with the aim of generating controversy.

As for the environmental concerns, the default response on this site seems to be to pour ridicule and scorn onto anyone who raises such issues when they don't align 100% with our own ideals. Instead we should be looking for common ground, of which there is lots.

unfortunately I don't think there is much common ground just an opinion that someone does something that people don't like or agree with even a perfectly legal activity it's wrong and should be stopped or banned, no live and let live.
just look at vegans and livestock farming.

 

[Goingback]

No, that's not woke. That's just someone making stupid remarks with the aim of generating controversy.

As for the environmental concerns, the default response on this site seems to be to pour ridicule and scorn onto anyone who raises such issues when they don't align 100% with our own ideals. Instead we should be looking for common ground, of which there is lots.

We share very little common ground - sadly. They want something of a theme park museum for the countryside, something that they can access by bike or electric scooter without nasty oikes ruining their rambles.

 

[mealiejimmy]

Just get an online dictionary and save me and the rest of the world a waste of time discussion!

That's pretty much the response I expected from someone who uses "woke" as his go to derogatory term for anything he doesn't like or doesn't agree with - sad really that your vocabulary is so limited

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Island]

The OPs news is certainly good and I thoroughly welcome it, but would you please define what you mean by "woke"
From the frequent use of the term on this and other forums it seems, for many people, to mean anything you don't like or disagree with.
Is that how you define it, or do you have specific criteria of things you don't like that aren't "woke" ?

Cheers

Bruce

Probably the most concise definition of the term that I have read.

It goes hand-in-hand with that other affront to the English language which is bandied about with gleeful abandon....snowflake. (Which, if I understand it properly, is the handle applied to one who expresses opinions that differ from your own?) True masters of the modern language can go for the double-whammy: "That snowflake is so woke...".

It appears that ad-hominen attacks have replaced reasoned debate / discussion in the modern day.

 

[User00053]

Woke methinks a word mainly used originally as a new buzz word not unlike the old blue sky thinking phrase by the media who crave using such speak as a way of life which has now filtered through into Most peoples psyche and a nice “new” word and debated by many as to its application.
Hardly meet anyone who actually uses the word in everyday life bar the written word and in yorkshire the word schitte about covers it.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Delighted to learn of a sudden rash of common sense in Wales - bravo to all who signed/responded.
Err, the rest of the segued thread put me fast asleep….

 

[User00053]

Also delighted to hear of the events in Welsh wales

 

[VSS]

unfortunately I don't think there is much common ground

We share very little common ground - sadly.

There's loads of common ground! Think of some of the wider environmental issues. Things that affect all of us, and that we should all be concerned about. Things like ocean pollution. If someone is campaigning against something like that we should be standing with them in that instance, even if it's someone that we clash with over other issues such as shooting. And it would be a first step to building bridges and, hopefully finding some compromises on other issues. And we don't need to leave it up to the "other side" to make the first move, or we're always on the back foot. And besides, they may never make the move to build bridges with us, their "opposition". It would be to our credit to be the first to make the move.

And also bear in mind, that while we love to criticise the urban vision of countryside management, just remember that a significant proportion of stalkers and shooters are simply weekend countrymen using the countryside for their leisure not their livelihood, so their vision is hardly realistic either.

 

[jimo]

Probably the most concise definition of the term that I have read.

It goes hand-in-hand with that other affront to the English language which is bandied about with gleeful abandon....snowflake. (Which, if I understand it properly, is the handle applied to one who expresses opinions that differ from your own?) True masters of the modern language can go for the double-whammy: "That snowflake is so woke...".

It appears that ad-hominen attacks have replaced reasoned debate / discussion in the modern day.

I think a snowflake is someone who takes offence far too easily and cannot stand to be disagreed with ie. they melt. In old money “no backbone”

 

[Dickie]

There's loads of common ground! Think of some of the wider environmental issues. Things that affect all of us, and that we should all be concerned about. Things like ocean pollution. If someone is campaigning against something like that we should be standing with them in that instance, even if it's someone that we clash with over other issues such as shooting. And it would be a first step to building bridges and, hopefully finding some compromises on other issues. And we don't need to leave it up to the "other side" to make the first move, or we're always on the back foot. And besides, they may never make the move to build bridges with us, their "opposition". It would be to our credit to be the first to make the move.

And also bear in mind, that while we love to criticise the urban vision of countryside management, just remember that a significant proportion of stalkers and shooters are simply weekend countrymen using the countryside for their leisure not their livelihood, so their vision is hardly realistic either.

Whilst I believe the pollution of the oceans should be something we are all concerned with and I'm in agreement with you, I think you're naive to think that it would build bridges and any form of compromises.
Any compromises have always been the coming to the middle from the shooting / fieldsports community.