HIK Micro Condor 2 CQ35 LRF Review

HIK Micro Condor 2 CQ35 LRF Review

After having been using the HIK Micro Condor 2 CQ35 LRF Review now three or four times a week, I thought I would take a second to write down my thoughts and opinions. I fully understand, though, that other people have purchased other devices, so other opinions will exist. These are mine.

I am not paid by anyone, I don’t sell any new thermal gear in a shop or receive any equipment FOC. These are my opinions after extensive use on products purchased with my own money. Other opinions will and do exist, and I am cool with that.

So, for context, I have previously owned and/or used extensively the following:

- Pulsar Helion 2 XP50 Pro

- Pulsar Merger XP50

- Pulsar Axion XG35 LRF

- Pulsar Telos XP50 LRF

- Hik Micro Falcon XQ50

- Hik Condor 1 XQ35 LRF

- Hike Falcon 2 FQ35

- Hik Habrok 1 HQ35

- Hik Habrok HE25

- Hik Habrok HQ35 4K

And probably some others that I have forgotten…

So, I was a big fan of the Pulsar Axion XG35 LRF, but didn’t like the fact that the LRF module insists that you use the device right-handed. I fully understand that nine out of ten people are right-handed, but that also means nine out of ten people shoot with their right eye. Why spend a lot of money on good deer stalking rifle scope glass and then blind your shooting eye by using a TV screen on your shooting eye? Enter the Hik Condor 1 and Telos, and there are devices that allow ambidextrous use for the shooter to choose for the first time. Or at least the first time if you wanted LRF as well. The Condor 1 CQ35 LRF gave a 640x512 sensor, LRF, and a compact package that could be stuffed into a jacket pocket in seconds. Add in a 22m FOV @100m, and it was a “Swiss army knife” unit. Early models suffered a reputation blow though because they somehow managed to drain their batteries at the rate of one battery per hour until HIK did a rapid software update. I noticed the other day that someone was asking about Condor battery performance, so even a two-month issue nearly two years ago has a memory impact with people.

Fast forward to the present day, and for me, the Condor 2 CQ35 presents a really good tool for the deer stalker. Especially that stalker who stalks woodland and maybe needs LRF for after-dark shooting. The 640x512 sensor provides sufficient detail to be able to ID roe, fallow, fox, or muntjac out to 150-200m conditions permitting. The 35mm lens gives the same 22m FOV @ 100m as the Condor 1, which is important as it means less scanning. To explain this, the Falcon FQ50 and Condor FQ50 both have more base optical mag, giving a better image once the animal is found (2.7 x mag as opposed to 1.9 x mag), but then the FOV gets cut from 22m @ 100m to 15m @ 100m, and for me, that’s 32% more scanning. Not an issue if you stalk in bit open spaces, but woodland and smaller areas can be a pain. Other people will prefer the FQ50 models for the exact opposite reason. Each to their own.

With regards to battery life, HIK have certainly kicked the Condor 1 problems into the long grass. By introducing a new 5500 mAH battery, the battery life seems to be 6 hours plus per battery, and the device comes with 2. You lose the 18650 battery cheapness that the Condor 1 had, but the new batteries seem to be priced at about £23, so if you wanted a 3rd to boost the use time to 18 hours plus, then it’s not exactly a bank breaker.

The other big change on the Condor 2 and, in fact, the Falcon 2 is the one-handed operation. By allowing the user to focus the image on the rear of the device rather than the front lens, there is a dramatic improvement in use. For the stalker or mobile fox shooter, the other hand is often taken up with a task like carrying shooting sticks, so to lean them somewhere to use your other hand to focus your thermal is a pain. Not a game-changing pain, but once you try a one-handed device, then you will be reluctant to go back. There is a downside, though, because HiK has moved the power button to the side to a location that is designed to be used by the thumb on your right hand. For me, this is a step back from the ambidextrous nature of the previous device that has suddenly rolled back. You can still use the Condor 2 left-handed, but in darkness, you are waiting on the switch sensor to auto-turn off the screen. This works very well, but there is a delay of a few seconds before the screen turns off. At times I have found myself illuminated by the screen when I didn’t really want to be.

In terms of thermal performance I find that for me the 640x512 is pretty dependable and works well in a wide range of conditions. I have found on a couple of occasions that the images has become very grainy in humid conditions, but randomly turning the device off and back on seems to solve this. Good old power cycle fixes 90% of tech issues it seems! I do find sometimes that i refer the image that the “cold setting” gives over the “warm” image setting, but generally it lives in white hot, warm and detection rather than identification. I have turned off the various alternative pallets as I just don’t need them personally. Just white and black work for me, but it’s a personal preference thing really and cycling through 3 others that I don’t use is annoying so off they go.

In summary, the Condor 2 CQ35 LRF is my current go-to choice for a thermal. I would prefer a form factor like the Falcon maybe, but they only do the FQ50 with LRF, so I would lose the FOV. I would also prefer the power button to be back on the top, but I have learned to work around this. I am also aware that the Pulsar have recently released the Oryx XG35 LRF, which is very similar in price and spec, but Pulsar insist on wrapping 18650 batteries in plastic and charging £40-50 for an £8 battery. This annoys me, and I worry that Pulsar have taken their position as market leader for granted and lost the edge. HIK and others have been buying market share with decent products and cut prices, coupled with good aftermarket service, and the consumer should take advantage of that. Similar story with the NOCPIX LUMI H35R; by all accounts, decent devices from a manufacturer looking to secure market share, but the LUMI misses the rear focus. It uses a 18650 battery, though, so some bonus points for that. Also, the NOCPIX is £300-400 cheaper, and that’s not to be sniffed at. I also fully accept that there are better devices on the market, but generally these are all more expensive as far as I can determine or lacking some of the features that I like. I used the Condor 1 for probably 300+ outings, so I fully expect to be using the Condor 2 to the same extent.
 

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Thank you for your review.

I am currently testing Pulsar Oryx LRF XG35 and believe me, battery is not the only downside.
Picture is nowhere near up to the famous name. Plus, that terrible curtain of grey dots that are covering all Pulsar screens, ...
I am testing Oryx alongside with my GUIDE TB630 with Russan 2.5 monocular and I can see hot objects clearer and at longer distances with GUIDE.

For the price point of Oryx, I would expect more.


May I ask, how do you find HIKMICRO Habrok HQ35 4K?

Cheers
 
Thank you for your review.

I am currently testing Pulsar Oryx LRF XG35 and believe me, battery is not the only downside.
Picture is nowhere near up to the famous name. Plus, that terrible curtain of grey dots that are covering all Pulsar screens, ...
I am testing Oryx alongside with my GUIDE TB630 with Russan 2.5 monocular and I can see hot objects clearer and at longer distances with GUIDE.

For the price point of Oryx, I would expect more.


May I ask, how do you find HIKMICRO Habrok HQ35 4K?

Cheers

This will probably answer your question

 
Good honest review , been going back and forward between another spotter and the hikmicro binos , for the same reason you are stating above the fov might be better in the 35 version than the 50 , but still on the fence as to whether to go down that way or stick to hand held and traditional glass , but will be looking at the condor if I decide to go that way . Thanks Rob
 
Good honest review , been going back and forward between another spotter and the hikmicro binos , for the same reason you are stating above the fov might be better in the 35 version than the 50 , but still on the fence as to whether to go down that way or stick to hand held and traditional glass , but will be looking at the condor if I decide to go that way . Thanks Rob

For the 4 4K versions of the Habrok the FOV’s are something like 25mm 11.3m, 35mm 22m, 50mm15m and 60 25m. All at 100m. I find everything less than 22m and more than x3 mag drives me mad.
 
Ineresting, i have the Condor 1 and it’s had a right pasting, couldn’t be happier, i did look through the 2 at the Stalking show and noticed the screen was larger, have you found it to be a big improvement out in the field?
 
Ineresting, i have the Condor 1 and it’s had a right pasting, couldn’t be happier, i did look through the 2 at the Stalking show and noticed the screen was larger, have you found it to be a big improvement out in the field?
Bigger screen as you say, bigger battery and better ergonomics. Potentially not enough to tempt someone who already has a Condor 1 to switch, but certainly an option for people with older gen stuff or looking for their first.
 
Good review 👍 I have the Condor 1 (CQ35) it's increased my success rate in the field tenfold. Brilliant bit of kit.

I do find myself lusting after a pair of Habrok Pro 50s though - the question is, will the next iteration of these have the rear focus wheels also? 👀
 
Good review 👍 I have the Condor 1 (CQ35) it's increased my success rate in the field tenfold. Brilliant bit of kit.

I do find myself lusting after a pair of Habrok Pro 50s though - the question is, will the next iteration of these have the rear focus wheels also? 👀
Note the post above about FOV for the 50’s.

I would imagine that you are right that the next gen Hik Binos will have rear focus as well, but I don’t actually know this I am just guessing.
 
Note the post above about FOV for the 50’s.

I would imagine that you are right that the next gen Hik Binos will have rear focus as well, but I don’t actually know this I am just guessing.

They need to for sure, and reduce the size, they are massive.
I was really impressed with the form factor and the wheel focus of the Nocpix Binos at the Stalking show but when i took them out alongside the Condor the image didn’t stack up.
 
Bonjour, je viens d'acheter un CQ35L 2.0 avec Image Pro 2.0. Une mise à jour du firmware m'est proposée avec Image Pro 3.0. J'ai lu sur d'autres forums que certains utilisateurs mécontents affirmaient qu'Image Pro 3.0 dégradait la qualité. Avant toute chose, j'aimerais connaître votre avis pour ceux qui utilisent Image Pro 3.0. Pour information, je ne l'utilise pas pour la chasse, mais pour l'observation générale. J'ai besoin d'un bon contraste sur tout le champ de vision. Merci.
 
Hello, I just bought a CQ35L 2.0 with Image Pro 2.0. I am offered a firmware update with Image Pro 3.0. I have read on other forums that some dissatisfied users claim that Image Pro 3.0 degrades the quality. First of all, I would like to know your opinion for those who use Image Pro 3.0. For information, I do not use it for hunting, but for general observation. I need good contrast across the entire field of view. Thank you
 
Bonjour, je viens d'acheter un CQ35L 2.0 avec Image Pro 2.0. Une mise à jour du firmware m'est proposée avec Image Pro 3.0. J'ai lu sur d'autres forums que certains utilisateurs mécontents affirmaient qu'Image Pro 3.0 dégradait la qualité. Avant toute chose, j'aimerais connaître votre avis pour ceux qui utilisent Image Pro 3.0. Pour information, je ne l'utilise pas pour la chasse, mais pour l'observation générale. J'ai besoin d'un bon contraste sur tout le champ de vision. Merci.

J'ai effectué la mise à niveau sur le terrain, avec un couple de chevreuils à 90 m de distance, qui sont restés sagement immobiles pendant toute la procédure. Je ne remarque pas de réelle différence sur l'image, mais j'apprécie les changements apportés à l'affichage LRF.


I did the upgrade while actually out in the field and had a pair of roe 90m away who rather obligingly stood still for the entire process. I don’t notice any real difference in picture but I do like the changes to the LRF display.
 
J'ai effectué la mise à niveau sur le terrain, avec un couple de chevreuils à 90 m de distance, qui sont restés sagement immobiles pendant toute la procédure. Je ne remarque pas de réelle différence sur l'image, mais j'apprécie les changements apportés à l'affichage LRF.


I did the upgrade while actually out in the field and had a pair of roe 90m away who rather obligingly stood still for the entire process. I don’t notice any real difference in picture but I do like the changes to the LRF display.
Thanks for your feedback, I was asking because some users found that Image Pro 3.0 darkened the overall image by highlighting the animal, and since I use it for general observation I wouldn't mind losing background detail. That's it, I'm hesitant to upgrade.
 
Any advice for someone looking to buy their first thermal for stalking? Thinking Hik but which Habrok, micro Condor, micro Condor pro 35mm or is the 2 sq35 really worth the extra money?
 
Any advice for someone looking to buy their first thermal for stalking? Thinking Hik but which Habrok, micro Condor, micro Condor pro 35mm or is the 2 sq35 really worth the extra money?

The answer depends on allot of things. Mainly though what you want to do with the thermal? Deer, foxes, rabbits ? All these? Open country or woodland or both? And last one budget.

If close country then something with 2x mag and a 35mm lens and a 640 sensor if budget allows. That said I would probably use this combination of features in most environments. Avoid units with high base mag and/or low fields of view. Cheaper thermals with high mag and lower quality sensors look good when you try them in the shop but in field conditions you end up scanning allot more.

Things like range finders etc are again a personal choice.
 
Thank you for your reply. Main use woudl be for deer in Woodland and open country but alss the occasional fox. Budget originally was hoping to get away with Micro Condor as was attractive price including LRF but then people were recommending Habrok binos as they did digital and would avoid binoculars being carried as well but I am loathed to go out with out glass binoculars just incase something fails! So then saw Condor 1 which was just a bit more and then saw reporrt on Condor 2 which is jsut a bit more again! Dont really want to part with that much but would rather pay once and get a good item. So need to be able to identify deer and would like it to have LRF.
 
Thank you for your reply. Main use woudl be for deer in Woodland and open country but alss the occasional fox. Budget originally was hoping to get away with Micro Condor as was attractive price including LRF but then people were recommending Habrok binos as they did digital and would avoid binoculars being carried as well but I am loathed to go out with out glass binoculars just incase something fails! So then saw Condor 1 which was just a bit more and then saw reporrt on Condor 2 which is jsut a bit more again! Dont really want to part with that much but would rather pay once and get a good item. So need to be able to identify deer and would like it to have LRF.

I would avoid the cheaper set of Habrok’s as the thermal sensor is about as bad as it gets and because the mag is high in combination with this the field of view is something like 9-10m at 100m. This will drive you wild.

If you like glass stick with glass and buy a spotter that will do what you need. Condor 1 CQ35 is a good unit. Condor 2 CQ35 is more of the same with some improvements.
 
I just updated the condor CQ35L v2.0 with the latest firmware 128 (image pro 3.0) before I had the 118 (image pro 2.0), and I notice a degradation in image quality when zoom pro is activated, I find the image much more pixelated and noisy, I also noticed that when the zoom is activated the acuity adjustment from 1 to 5 is inoperative as if the image was always set to 5, whereas on my old firmware this was functional even when zoom pro was activated. Really disappointed.
 
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