Home Brewing

martin_b

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Any home brewing experts on here?

Since lockdown Ive developed an obsession with Strong IPA's and have become a particular fan of the Verdant brewery line of products, however its not cheap! I'd say on average my prefered tipples run to anywhere between £6-£9 for a 440ml Can.

I know now I've retired I should be down the local Wetherspoons drinking end of life <4% bitter at £2.00 a pint but I just can't bring myself to do that! So my question is how easy is it to brew strong IPA's at home with all the modern automated kit that now seems to be available?

cheers

Martin
 
Easy to do i have been brewing my own for years but have moved on from using a gas burner in the garden to a dedicated electric set up called the grainfather well worth a look it's not cheap to get the kit to begin with but as with anything buy the best and buy once.
I looked in to the Grandfather a few years back but couldn't justify the cost. Maybe its time i looked again.
 
I started out brewing a few years back but just from the premium kits, the results were very reliable and drinkable but they all had that same homebrew taste. I looked at the Grainfather setups but decided against as I can never guarantee when I’m at home or not.

Since then I have been buying 4.5 gal casks, known as pins, from a couple of local breweries and my wife bought me an Angram beer engine as a birthday present. I get a great variety of absolutely top quality ales for £55 a pin, that’s 35 pints at £1.57 each, I doubt I could brew it for that.
 
Thanks Guys lots to think about.. The Polypin option is certainly worth investigating.. (takes me back to student parties) however Im not sure if you can get them for keg IPA rather than cask bitter?
 
If you are starting out then have a look at love brewing. Their extract kits are really good for the novice brewer (like me) and you will get 40 pints of decent ale if you follow the instructions.

Key thing is - cleanliness!! Get everything sterilised and you’re golden. The rest kind of looks after itself.

Once you have your fermenter, sterilising kit, bottles, caps, etc then each kit will give you beer at about £0.60 - £0.70 a pint or thereabouts.

Also, if you like Belgian beers then the festival range of kits are great, esp the dubbel!!
 
Hi Martin - well worth getting in to brewing. My top tip is use swing top (grolsch style) bottles, they keep the fizz better. Also follow the instructions. Whenever I’ve tried to be clever I’ve made it worse!!
 
Any home brewing experts on here?

Since lockdown Ive developed an obsession with Strong IPA's and have become a particular fan of the Verdant brewery line of products, however its not cheap! I'd say on average my prefered tipples run to anywhere between £6-£9 for a 440ml Can.

I know now I've retired I should be down the local Wetherspoons drinking end of life <4% bitter at £2.00 a pint but I just can't bring myself to do that! So my question is how easy is it to brew strong IPA's at home with all the modern automated kit that now seems to be available?

cheers

Martin

I also like stuff like Verdant.

If you want something like that, you may have to soend a bit on some good hops, yeast and a proper mash. Boil in a bag (BIAB) is quite a good method for doing it at home without a propper kettle.

Plenty of youtube vids to guide you on the process with boils, hop timings and dry hopping.

I'd avoid any kits that use extract, whilst you'll still get something drinkable, it always has that extract malt flavour in the background which can be fine on a coppery ale but not for a fresh IPA.
 
pins, from a couple of local breweries and my wife bought me an Angram beer engine as a birthday present. I
To use " pins" do you need this angeam beer engine ?..... sounds like a reasonable way to get beer....is it just bitters or can ypu fet them in IPA's ?

Paul
 
If you want to brew your own beer at home it's not difficult and you don't have to spend a lot of money. I like to make my own kit and I have ended up with a homebrew setup I can brew absolutely anything with but if you want to try brewing at home you can get a kit from a homebrew shop which will allow you to brew lots of different kinds of beer for not much money. This place have lots of choice and are very reasonably priced:

Beer Kit Equipment - Premium Home Brewing Kits & Equipment from The Malt Miller

One thing I would recommend you try if you want to dip your toe in the water and not spend a huge amount of money, which is also compact and easy to use, is the Pinter. I know several people who tried it and have got excellent results from it and they have a good choice of beer kits you can use with it too:

Fresh Beer

There is also a really good facebook group called Knights of the Pinter where people discuss non standard brews with it. Quite an interesting bunch.

The thing to remember is it isn't rocket science, you just need to get the equipment clean and sterile before you start and control the temperature during fermentation. I do this by putting my fermentation bin into a flexitub filled with water in the garage with a £10 aquarium heater in the flexitub. Cracking results have been had and it is simple and cheap.

Keep it simple and have fun!
 
Fresh Beer..

Thanks for this I think Ill give it a try. Im pretty familiar with the Brew Dog range, I'm a shareholder! ( Dont hate me guys they reliably delivered in lockdown and Ive got my money back with the equity punk discounts)
 
To use " pins" do you need this angeam beer engine ?..... sounds like a reasonable way to get beer....is it just bitters or can ypu fet them in IPA's ?

Paul
The pin is a stainless real ale cask (sometimes plastic) which holds half a firkin, 4.5 gallons. You could just hammer in a barrel tap and pour straight into the glass but it will be flat, the beer engine I have was factory reconditioned by Angram and clamps onto your worktop in exactly the same way it would in a pub. This pulls a pint properly and in my opinion is worth every penny, even if you brew the beer yourself it will be far better if conditioned in a barrel and served through a pump than it will bottle conditioned.

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I have built a cooling system whereby I have a large container of glycol coolant piped into a spare freezer and a thermostatically controlled pump to circulate around an insulated jacket that fits a pin, this keeps it at exactly the right temperature for whichever style of beer I have. In the winter I swap the cooling system for a brew belt to keep it up to temperature as the pins are in an outbuilding on the other side of the pantry wall.

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I have also added a cask aspirator which is fed from a bottle of drinks grade CO2 and keeps a blanket of gas over the beer without carbonating it, this will extend the usable life from a week to about 5 weeks, although most of them get drunk within about 10 days if I’m at home, far less if my son is back from Uni. 🙄

I have two local craft breweries, one is less than two miles from my house, and they have a constantly changing range of beers alongside their core brews, at the moment I’m on their traditional oatmeal stout. 😋

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When I was brewing, albeit from kits, I found the best means of bottling it was using the swing top bottles, no messing about with crown caps and a lot more reliable.

As others have said, cleanliness is absolutely essential, but so too is temperature control, yeasts like to be at their specified temperature and do not like wild fluctuations, it stresses the yeast and this produces off flavours, it can also stop your fermentation and make it difficult to get it going again.

I wouldn’t go down the Pinter route for numerous reasons, the biggest that it is a very expensive way of producing meh beer.

The kits are a great way of starting out and learning the basics without investing heavily, but for quality beer the all grain route will give the best results.

Good luck.
 
The thing that appeals to me about the pinter method is the simplicity and hands off approach, I have numerous hobbies, I competitively shoot shotguns and rifles, I fish sea and coarse. I mess around with cars... etc
Im not sure I have the spare time to devote to a full on brewery setup. It seems to me pinter costs about the same as a morning at Bisley so i think Ill give it a try and if the beer is less than optimum, I'll save it for guests who wont know better, and stick to my Verdant cans,
 
The thing that appeals to me about the pinter method is the simplicity and hands off approach, I have numerous hobbies, I competitively shoot shotguns and rifles, I fish sea and coarse. I mess around with cars... etc
Im not sure I have the spare time to devote to a full on brewery setup. It seems to me pinter costs about the same as a morning at Bisley so i think Ill give it a try and if the beer is less than optimum, I'll save it for guests who wont know better, and stick to my Verdant cans,
I’ve read mixed reviews about it, my mate has just got one for Christmas but he hasn’t reported on it yet. The Pinter packs work out quite expensive but I understand you can split regular kits but to make that cost effective you would need additional pressure barrels for the Pinter.
Each Pinter barrel contains 10 pints and takes around 10 days or more before it’s ready, there is not a chance that kind of production rate would keep me quenched, I would need about 5 of the barrels. However for someone that cares about their liver, it could work.
 
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