Hunting Photos
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Can see the point ......
“ grip & grins” have a. Time and a place .... plastering them on social media without the background, the story or the reason for the hunt does us no favours... the kill is such a small part of a bigger day ...
Likes of that woman standing jubilant arms and rifle waving half standing on a dead giraffe does lot more harm than good .
Of course ..... my own opinion ... other opinions are available
Paul
“ grip & grins” have a. Time and a place .... plastering them on social media without the background, the story or the reason for the hunt does us no favours... the kill is such a small part of a bigger day ...
Likes of that woman standing jubilant arms and rifle waving half standing on a dead giraffe does lot more harm than good .
Of course ..... my own opinion ... other opinions are available
Paul
Woodsmoke
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Yep, pictures such as that just lend themselves to devious manipulation by those with an agenda. And of course the Sheeples are only too happy to jump on the bandwagon. Hence 'Cecil the Martyr'
totally agree, its the posting of these posed "trophy" shots without context that potentially does so much harm, especially when they end up in the wrong hands.
Theres plenty of photo opportunities (especially in a country like Namibia) that can present hunting in a better light, to me they are pretty boring pictures too, Id much rather see a good photo of the landscape, a detail or something evocative of what the hunt was, than the obligatory grip and grin.
In these days of social media I think we have to be a lot more savvy about what we post openly. We must not forget that the general public, where they see these pictures, have zero comprehension of any story behind a hunt, all they see is a wealthy human being posing God like over a dead animal that has been killed with a powerful gun, (both of which they have taught by the media are either cute/under threat of extinction or highly dangerous weapons that should be banned)
Take these pictures sure, but why post them for the world to see?
I've just written a fairly lengthy hunting report after a very recent trip to Namibia featuring quite a lot of photos including a few 'trophy shots'. There are some pictures I took that will remain with me and will never make social media. But I've posted 'trophy pics' as part of a larger and detailed trip. It was written to help newbies thinking of going there see what the whole experience is really like and to demonstrate the type of trophy and management one can expect to hunt there.
I don't post such pictures on my Facebook account because I'm acutely aware that some people on my friends list would disapprove although I'd love the opportunity to listen to their concerns and put across a different point of view discussing the very real benefits of trophy hunting.
IF I go on another hunt and think that the experience being documented will benefit others then I probably will write a similar report. But to be clear, I've hunted in Africa elsewhere and saw no real benefit of showing pics from those trips.
Just my two penneth, I have no doubt others will disagree, but I hope that answers your question.
Personally I've enjoyed reading many hunt reports from others on US based forums featuring trophy pics. I find them educational and interesting. I would be disappointed if people suddenly stopped writing reports and posting pictures on hunting forums and facebook groups devoted to the discussion of hunting.
I do agree that grinning like a loon and holding an animal inappropriately should be avoided. I also understand that the hunting of some species are far more emotive than others (rightly or wrongly) though. Posting a picture of a giraffe graped around one's shoulders or a dead male lion is asking for trouble. But antelope destined for the human food chain in context is much less likely to attract the attentions of animal rights extremists. Again all IMHO.
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andychas, in addition to the potential misinterpretation and misrepresentation of hunting photos, a lot of hunting forums are full of aggressive invective aimed squarely at those who are opposed the sport. Some of the choice insulting comments written casually without a second thought by forum members end up being used against their community as a whole. Savvy anti-hunters hoover up this stuff off forums and use it to support their characterisation of hunters when lobbying various bodies, be they government, enviro-greenies, media, etc.
Once the bile is in the public domain, its available to be used by anyone with an axe to grind.
Once the bile is in the public domain, its available to be used by anyone with an axe to grind.
MJ75 Ive not seen your report (would certainly be interested too though) I think we are making the same point but in a different way. To be clear, showing "trophy" pictures in context as part of a bigger story is a good thing imo. One off "trophy" shots posted on social media with no context - I find uninteresting and feel are extremely risky to the global hunting community in this day and age. The question "why post them for the world to see" was directed at open posts on social media/online, not pictures in articles about hunting where the story of the successful hunt is put in context. To me, alongside hunting articles you mention which I also enjoy, a good example of the sort of publicly available (as opposed to closed forums) publication that can do hunting a lot of good is Modern Huntsman, good photography, good hunting stories alongside "trophy" shots.
dodgyknees, couldn't agree more, generally I think people should think far more carefully before posting, though I realise its sometimes difficult in the heat of an argument (especially about calibre choice!)
Theres an expression used often "Hired on Linkedin, fired on Facebook" where an employer looks carefully at FB pages to see the real character behind the glossy linkedin profile. Obvious parallels with what we do online.
Theres an expression used often "Hired on Linkedin, fired on Facebook" where an employer looks carefully at FB pages to see the real character behind the glossy linkedin profile. Obvious parallels with what we do online.
reloader54
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so called "social media" is probably the most "anti social" vehicle available if you look at the whole picture, anti gun, anti hunting, anti race,religion, culture, gender, colour,political,class,paedophilia,terrorism, sjw,s, all using it to further their twisted ideology and indoctrinate more lost aimless idiots to strengthen their numbers, hunting does itself no favours with these type of photos and viewed by many as nothing more than throwing gasoline on an already out of control fire.
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Pine Marten
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Obviously there's a question of individual tastes here but I suppose you have to ask yourself about the intended audience, what exactly you wish to illustrate, and whether or not the picture is shown in context. I know that two or three years ago, I stopped taking pictures of myself with dead deer after realising that I was trying to crop myself out of the photos. Why was I trying to remove myself? Well on reflection, because the purpose of the picture was to capture an element of the essence of the hunt, and I suppose to honour the deer. Not to show how I triumphed over it, because frankly, it's not that impressive. I was just ruining the pictures and diluting the message.
Now that said, I don't at all think that we shouldn't post hunting pictures, in the same way that I think we shouldn't hide what we do. But to have the desired positive effect, we shouldn't post pictures that we wouldn't be comfortable explaining. So illustrations of an overall story of a hunt in Namibia make sense in their context. But we must be mindful that it just takes two mouse clicks to take them out of that context, unlike in printed media. That's fine for an audience of hunters. Maybe not for Facebook, especially if your privacy settings are pretty lax.
But if a picture can say a thousand words, a good picture can be an asset. There are many good photographers on this site, and I'm sure Klenchblaize won't mind me reposting one of his pictures here, as I think it does everything: it shows the quarry in a good light, in its natural environment, the composition tells the story of the hunt, the hunter is suggested by the kit but not taking the limelight. He may well have a picture featuring himself that he keeps privately because it means something for him, but they're for different audiences.
Now that said, I don't at all think that we shouldn't post hunting pictures, in the same way that I think we shouldn't hide what we do. But to have the desired positive effect, we shouldn't post pictures that we wouldn't be comfortable explaining. So illustrations of an overall story of a hunt in Namibia make sense in their context. But we must be mindful that it just takes two mouse clicks to take them out of that context, unlike in printed media. That's fine for an audience of hunters. Maybe not for Facebook, especially if your privacy settings are pretty lax.
But if a picture can say a thousand words, a good picture can be an asset. There are many good photographers on this site, and I'm sure Klenchblaize won't mind me reposting one of his pictures here, as I think it does everything: it shows the quarry in a good light, in its natural environment, the composition tells the story of the hunt, the hunter is suggested by the kit but not taking the limelight. He may well have a picture featuring himself that he keeps privately because it means something for him, but they're for different audiences.
reloader54
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why is some think it necessary to post pics of the animals killed, I've shot probably thousands of them in the last 60 odd years,, why do I need to see all or any of the ones everyone else shot??? or take pictures to show the rest of the world via social media.?
one reason could be "one-upmanship" that old "mines bigger than yours" scenario, or have we become accustomed to seeking "likes" or admiration from social media.
clearly to some the desire to be seen as the "best" often backfires and they actually are viewed as being among the "worst"
It really doesn't matter how much logical explanation you attach to any pictures, its easy to omit or fabricate a false image to support your aims,,, hell,, there are apps designed by "social media" to enable you to alter just about any part of the images.
wise up people.
one reason could be "one-upmanship" that old "mines bigger than yours" scenario, or have we become accustomed to seeking "likes" or admiration from social media.
clearly to some the desire to be seen as the "best" often backfires and they actually are viewed as being among the "worst"
It really doesn't matter how much logical explanation you attach to any pictures, its easy to omit or fabricate a false image to support your aims,,, hell,, there are apps designed by "social media" to enable you to alter just about any part of the images.
wise up people.
mchughcb
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I don't post hunting on faceache , but I sure as hell wouldn't want to work for a company that thinks they can fire me for conducting a legal form of hunting and gathering.
John Gryphon
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This is ridiculous,it is a case of pandering to the antis,give an inch and they get a mile..
I hunt and take my game, I take my photos to record the day and if the antis don`t like it,well the point is that I am not shoving it down THEIR throats...... they are the ones looking for it "it " being that inch = mile!
They are on this forum for sure watching, waiting and trying to garner ammo to use against us all.
Why is it we are prepared to kowtow to them all the time,my answer is if it is legal to hunt (take pics too) why in the world should we stop for those ****s?
I find on a personal note that the 'anti dog trapping/shooting brigade"are best answered by posting photos of torn apart sheep and calves and actually demonstrating that they (antis) are misguided and that I am willing to debate such with the most eminent scientists that the antis can thrust forward.
Another thing however small is that I live in a community where deer hunting/shooting/killing is seen to be just another role that one does by living here. Antis will not get a guernsey in this town so they as usual continue to thrust and divide in the cities where the average dolt thinks that his chicken is born in a plastic wrap and that shooting crop raiding animals,deer to elephants is bad....
I have to ask what do antis think of moving to Africa to live and then their neighbourhood being terrorised by a man eating lion... quick get someone with a gun!
We as hunters should be fighting these schittbags instead of bending over continually for another rights eroding arse reaming.
Come on you Poms,remember Rorkes Drift ffs.........dont give up!
On a parting shot,here is the non gun method being used,it will be all over the world when guns are banned! IE a "free shovels" central location in every town!
This video is one that should be shown to all antis/greens.
https://www.facebook.com/eduardo.faria.182/videos/1067834316708117/
I hunt and take my game, I take my photos to record the day and if the antis don`t like it,well the point is that I am not shoving it down THEIR throats...... they are the ones looking for it "it " being that inch = mile!
They are on this forum for sure watching, waiting and trying to garner ammo to use against us all.
Why is it we are prepared to kowtow to them all the time,my answer is if it is legal to hunt (take pics too) why in the world should we stop for those ****s?
I find on a personal note that the 'anti dog trapping/shooting brigade"are best answered by posting photos of torn apart sheep and calves and actually demonstrating that they (antis) are misguided and that I am willing to debate such with the most eminent scientists that the antis can thrust forward.
Another thing however small is that I live in a community where deer hunting/shooting/killing is seen to be just another role that one does by living here. Antis will not get a guernsey in this town so they as usual continue to thrust and divide in the cities where the average dolt thinks that his chicken is born in a plastic wrap and that shooting crop raiding animals,deer to elephants is bad....
I have to ask what do antis think of moving to Africa to live and then their neighbourhood being terrorised by a man eating lion... quick get someone with a gun!
We as hunters should be fighting these schittbags instead of bending over continually for another rights eroding arse reaming.
Come on you Poms,remember Rorkes Drift ffs.........dont give up!
On a parting shot,here is the non gun method being used,it will be all over the world when guns are banned! IE a "free shovels" central location in every town!
This video is one that should be shown to all antis/greens.
https://www.facebook.com/eduardo.faria.182/videos/1067834316708117/
Jagare
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Totally agree, The word Snowflake is bandied about on here quite a bit. I must say SD has its fair share of paranoid snowflakes and a lot of them seem to lean to the right in there political views.
While I agree with most of what you say I don't believe that posting pictures of dead animals is going to do our sport any favours and can only do us harm
I sometimes take pictures of what I've shot but the pictures are for me (they are my memories ) when we post pictures on SD/Social Media those pictures are available for the whole word to see
While hard line Anti's are in the minority and the vast majority don't have strong views on hunting one way or other those pictures offer the Anti's fuel to further there cause to turn the don't no's against us
I have been lucky enough to have enjoyed my sport for 40 years and never has our sport been under so much pressure I can only hope that the younger generation can do the same and for there sake I think we should that care in the way act and what we do
Paul
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+1 couldn’t agree with you more.Seems we pander more and more with antis,vegans and anybody else who doesn’t like what we do.
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