Introduction of a new obsessed stalker

georgedoubleyou

Well-Known Member
Hi everyone,

I live in east anglia and I’ve been involved in shooting/agriculture/countryside my entire life. However, admittedly, I never gave deer a second thought.

I recently applied for my FAC (I’ll post a report of how it went at some point, hopefully in the near future). I was initially going to put in for a 223 as I have been given permission to shoot 2500 acres of sporting estate to have a crack at the foxes.

A couple of months ago (before I put in for my FAC), a good friend of mine who started his keeping job on a new estate and is into his stalking asked me if I fancied going for a morning stalk after muntjac. We came home empty handed but I was hooked. I changed my mind and thought that the better calibre to go for would be a 243, given the fact I can go after any deer and also still use it on the foxes.

I am EXTREMELY fortunate that, following the trip out with my friend, he has said that I’m welcome to go after the deer on his estate whenever I want. They are very keen to keep the numbers down as they do a lot of tree planting and forestry work. They have muntjac, roe, fallow is large numbers and a few reds passing through here and there.

I have very much gone down the rabbit hole when it comes to deer stalking and read dozens of books, hours of videos and spent more time than I care to admit reading thread after thread on this site. All from an outing I almost said no to as I was indifferent to the quarry and it was quite an early alarm to set!

The main draw for me is how defendable deer stalking/management is. I often find it hard to justify driven pheasant/partridge shooting.

I can promise you that you’ll hear more from me!
 
Welcome Sir,
Friendly/ helpful bunch on this board.
After a lifetime (You don’t say your age) involved with shooting etc. and not comfy with driven pheasant etc. what types of shooting did you do, or were you involved in?

Looking back at my own early start nothing surprised me.
Thanking you, Ken.
 
Welcome Sir,
Friendly/ helpful bunch on this board.
After a lifetime (You don’t say your age) involved with shooting etc. and not comfy with driven pheasant etc. what types of shooting did you do, or were you involved in?

Looking back at my own early start nothing surprised me.
Thanking you, Ken.
Thank you!

I don’t think that part read the way I intended. I am 30 years old and I have shot pigeons, rabbits and wildfowl etc since I could safely hold and shoot a 410 (absolutely no ethical dilemmas there). it’s not that I’m not comfortable with pheasant shooting; far from it. I’m still very much involved and regularly shoot. It’s more a case that from a non-shooting-persons perspective, there’s very little argument against deer stalking (besides not being comfortable with killing). Driven pheasant shooting - not so much. The reality is that we do it because we enjoy it. But most of the stats are convoluted and twisted in favour of shooting. And for every biased statistic in favour of shooting, there is also one against shooting. We talk about the “net-benefit” of shooting, but for it to be “net” there has to be some negatives.

I’m yet to hear of a negative impact to the countryside and ecosystem that is an output of managing deer. And it’s exactly that that has me well and truly hooked.

That being said, I will clarify: I love my driven shooting and will continue to do it for as long as I can.
 
Thank you!

I don’t think that part read the way I intended. I am 30 years old and I have shot pigeons, rabbits and wildfowl etc since I could safely hold and shoot a 410 (absolutely no ethical dilemmas there). it’s not that I’m not comfortable with pheasant shooting; far from it. I’m still very much involved and regularly shoot. It’s more a case that from a non-shooting-persons perspective, there’s very little argument against deer stalking (besides not being comfortable with killing). Driven pheasant shooting - not so much. The reality is that we do it because we enjoy it. But most of the stats are convoluted and twisted in favour of shooting. And for every biased statistic in favour of shooting, there is also one against shooting. We talk about the “net-benefit” of shooting, but for it to be “net” there has to be some negatives.

I’m yet to hear of a negative impact to the countryside and ecosystem that is an output of managing deer. And it’s exactly that that has me well and truly hooked.

That being said, I will clarify: I love my driven shooting and will continue to do it for as long as I can.
Hi gdy;
Thanks for clarification.
You’re not alone in your thoughts.
Thanks, Ken.
 
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