Is the Lee Breech lock challenger kit worth it?

August1944

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Hi All,

I'm new to reloading (Ive tried a few rounds with a Lee Loader set, some case prep tools and a Hornady electronic scale). I'm looking to step it up and buy a press and hand primer (I think!). I've seen the Lee breech lock challenger kit and was wondering if it was worth considering?
 
Hi All,

I'm new to reloading (Ive tried a few rounds with a Lee Loader set, some case prep tools and a Hornady electronic scale). I'm looking to step it up and buy a press and hand primer (I think!). I've seen the Lee breech lock challenger kit and was wondering if it was worth considering?
Yes. I bought they’re 50th anniversary kit a few years back, second hand, and it’s still going having loaded thousands of rounds. Add some dies, digital callipers and a manual trickled and you’re away.

You’ll probably want to upgrade the scales at some point, for speed of settling rather than accuracy, but the Lee set will get you going
 
Yes. I bought they’re 50th anniversary kit a few years back, second hand, and it’s still going having loaded thousands of rounds. Add some dies, digital callipers and a manual trickled and you’re away.

You’ll probably want to upgrade the scales at some point, for speed of settling rather than accuracy, but the Lee set will get you going
Ps. I’d ditch the electronic scale
 
Ps. I’d ditch the electronic scale
I find electronic scales handy for quickly checking a batch of H2O case volumes to obtain an average for Quickload/GRT.

The supplied lee scales are poor compared to a RCBS 505 or similar but otherwise a perfectly good kit to get you started. It's also useful to get your hands on one or two small calibration weights, new or secondhand, to check the span of your scale after zeroing. I use a 2g (approximately 30gr) lab weight I bought for a couple of quid i.e. something in the powder weight range you are likely to be reloading at.

Another useful upgrade was the Lee safety primer, allowing you to prime in the press. The hand operated auto primer tool supplied is fine however, just a bit wearing if you need to prime over 100 cases.

ATB, V
 
Hi All,

I'm new to reloading (Ive tried a few rounds with a Lee Loader set, some case prep tools and a Hornady electronic scale). I'm looking to step it up and buy a press and hand primer (I think!). I've seen the Lee breech lock challenger kit and was wondering if it was worth considering?
I have found it a worthwhile purchase. Sure, there are still extra bits and bobs you need to buy (dies, case trimmer, loading blocks etc) but the value of the kit you get is superb. I eventually sold off individual items of the kit that I never used or had replaced with different tools or components.
 
Yep! Been using one for very many years now for everything from .222 up to 8mm and never had any issues. The scales are a tad slow to settle but work fine - a good starter set up which you may well choose to add to but actually do not have to. Imagine!
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Yes. I bought they’re 50th anniversary kit a few years back, second hand, and it’s still going having loaded thousands of rounds. Add some dies, digital callipers and a manual trickled and you’re away.

You’ll probably want to upgrade the scales at some point, for speed of settling rather than accuracy, but the Lee set will get you going
Brilliant thanks, noting a comment below did you get the hand prime, have you found it OK?
 
I find electronic scales handy for quickly checking a batch of H2O case volumes to obtain an average for Quickload/GRT.

The supplied lee scales are poor compared to a RCBS 505 or similar but otherwise a perfectly good kit to get you started. It's also useful to get your hands on one or two small calibration weights, new or secondhand, to check the span of your scale after zeroing. I use a 2g (approximately 30gr) lab weight I bought for a couple of quid i.e. something in the powder weight range you are likely to be reloading at.

Another useful upgrade was the Lee safety primer, allowing you to prime in the press. The hand operated auto primer tool supplied is fine however, just a bit wearing if you need to prime over
Thanks, so it sounds as if everyone agrees the sets are good, the question is whether to prime on the press, by hand or off the bench? Are their any particular advantages to any of these options or is it just personal choice?
 
Thanks, so it sounds as if everyone agrees the sets are good, the question is whether to prime on the press, by hand or off the bench? Are their any particular advantages to any of these options or is it just personal choice?
I use the Lee hand primer (Lee Auto Prime)
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I prefer this to the primer seating on the press, I find there is more tactile feedback with this. Just ensure that the cases you reload do not have crimped primer pockets (Hornady does). Or if they do, make sure they are adequately chamfered or the primers will take a lot of force to seat and possibly crush/deform.
 
Hand primers:
The first Lee hand primer that I had was OK but I broke the lever. The second one had too much plastic to break and failed to feed properly/at all.
I use the RCBS universal for large primers but it occasionally fails to grip small cases.
I now have a Frankford Arsenal that I use for small cases.
 
No. Don't buy the kit.

Press is ok although the cast did eventually fracture on mine after many years.

The scales are not up to it which is unacceptable for a key piece of equipment so its a waste of money buying the kit; go for a set of RcBs straight off. I use their press mounted primer, I had their hand priming tool but it is junk. Too mean to use a better version.

Their little hand tools are pretty neat and cheap.

I am also a fan of their powder scoops. Cheap as chips and get you close for just a bit of trickling to finish off.

I am not a fan of their dies as I can measure run out so again I would suggest RCBS, Redding etc etc.
 
Thanks, so it sounds as if everyone agrees the sets are good, the question is whether to prime on the press, by hand or off the bench? Are their any particular advantages to any of these options or is it just personal choice?
I would say just personal preference. Try the one in the kit. If it works for you stick with it otherwise look at some of the options. I'm pretty sure the Lee safety arm, that works with the Lee safety primer, come in the kit.
 
Brilliant thanks, noting a comment below did you get the hand prime, have you found it OK?
The older set I have has the prime-on-press kit which i use more often than not but I do also have a hand prime so I can sit and prime brass whilst watching the telly on occasion, I prefer priming on press but the hand prime works fine.
 
I bought the 50th anniversary kit six months ago and its still in the unopened box for my reloader mates that come hunting here.
I was advised at the time that the kit "was a cheap buy on special" and all that one needs for the average bloke rather than the perfectionist nut.
 
It's okay , personally I think you'd be better off buying good second hand gear . If you decide reloading isn't for you you'll lose less and if it is, you'll have better equipment.
The kit is now £230 from Sportsman' ! Certainly not the bargain it was,though it is convenient as a good starting point 👍.

Keep an eye on classifieds before you make a final decision.
 
Hi All,

I'm new to reloading (Ive tried a few rounds with a Lee Loader set, some case prep tools and a Hornady electronic scale). I'm looking to step it up and buy a press and hand primer (I think!). I've seen the Lee breech lock challenger kit and was wondering if it was worth considering?
Take a look at this video:

The chap makes some very valid points about the weaknesses of some of the kit included, alternatives of better utility, and how putting together your own setup with these alternatives, although costing bit more, will be a better experience.

The "prime on press" arrangement of the Challenger is actually very workable, so don't necessarily think that you must have a separate hand primer.

I do own the Lee Breechlock Challenger press and consider it to be excellent. It's not my main one, but TBH it could serve well as my only one, if I didn't have something else as well. I bought mine on a whim, my local dealer had ordered one in, the full kit, for a customer who never turned up to buy it. So he offered it to me at the trade price he had paid, to clear the space. I am very glad that I did so.

Mine is the setup with the on-press "safety prime" system which works well, though I generally don't use it, simply placing the primers by hand into the seating lever. I have found all of the parts included usable, though I don't care for the Lee scales, other than to have them around to check my electronic ones. And, I suppose, might be useful if the electronic ones ever broke, or I ran out of batteries (most unlikely). Likewise the chamfer/deburr tool is not very good, but that's a trivial detail.

My kit came with the cutter/lockstud trimmer, which is excellent, I see no reason to look beyond that even now. I can't see the point of the hand cranked thing that nowadays comes in one of the Anniversary kits, and requires expensive dies to use, rather than the inexpensive length gauge+shellholder, for each chambering.

I do have a Lee hand primer, the original round tray version, which is highly regarded, unlike later versions, however eventually it might break. Apparently the lever has a weakness. Meanwhile it soldiers on, perfectly. If so I will be looking for a Frankford Arsenal, or RCBS one. Which, BTW, cost more than I paid for my whole Anniversary kit (bargain :))

The kit list that the chap in the video recommends would also be a good starting point whatever press you choose.

So, in summary, the complete kit is one way of getting started, but I think you are better off buying bits and pieces separately. More effort certainly to track things down, that are in stock. Or keep an eye on classifieds here for things. Most of this stuff doesn't really wear out. It will also cost more, but worth it. I don't think you would be disappointed with the press itself, even if later you splash out on a better one it will always come in handy. TBH one or other of the Anniversary kits is a good deal, just a few bits that can be easily improved on, as and when you feel the need. But you will want better scales sooner rather than later. And a trickler. And ... and so it goes.
 
I have 2 Lee presses and never had a problem. I agree that the powder scale that comes with the kit is pretty ordinary, and I never use a powder thrower. Their dies I've found to be good quality, in particular the Collet neck sizer. As far as a powder scale is concerned I bought a Hornady and love it.
 
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I started off with the Anniversary kit. The press is ok, perfect powder measure is ok, but not particularly repeatable with extruded powders hand primer is ok, I wouldn’t bother priming on the press, the funnel works. Everything else you’ll probably have/want to replace at some point, scales aren’t great.
Might be better buying separately, used, as someone also pointed out.
Good luck
 
Their dies I've found to be good quality, in particular the Collet neck sizer.
Their collet dies are excellent. Some of the best ammo I have made is with this die.

However the full length dies in my experience bend the case rather than straighten it and the seating dies are just a joke.

It is possible to make excellent ammunition with basic Lee die sets but only with very diligent load development and tuning seating depth. Personally I would rather start with dies that create straight rounds than waste components compensating for cheapo dies. If everybody measured the case runout nobody would ever use a Lee die.
 
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