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Interesting situation - French and to a lesser extent German fears of successes outside the EU have led to the EU demanding 80% of UK fishing rights IN PERPETUITY and the supremacy of EU law over here. I have to say I am incensed at the shameful way they are behaving and hope we all refuse to but goods from either country. Impossible to agree with their demands so time to say goodbye and never ever darken our doors again. So much for those who sought to set Europe free. I would swear at this point but add your own if you feel inclined.
 
glasshalffull said:
Who else will the uk trade with if not the eu?
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The rest of the world - trade deals already agreed with many countries - Canada, Singapore, Iceland etc etc.
Left to me i would make all EU imports prohibitively expensive and trade with anyone else - what do we really need that cant be had from elsewhere ?
Cars from Japan Korea Singapore food from Aus NZ, Canada etc Now would be a good time to create a CWTO Commonwealth Trade Organisation, demand of any supplier outside the group what we and they need. If India is included and all those who were once 'Empire' countries, we would all benefit and the EU would have to talk then with no guaranteed fishing rights !
 
I love/hate the French with equal measure having spent a lot of time living there but France as a beautiful country is wasted on the French. Useless self absorbed self centred lazy gravy train riding cretins. Germans just lost the way a few years ago under Merkel. Somewhat ironic the French are fighting so hard now maybe it’s to make up for the grandfathers failings 😂. A wins a win after all.
 
The remainers and the BBC are still active, wish they would all go live in Europe. 50 percent tax on Audi and BMW, Citroen and Fiat. All Frog wine plus 100per cent, buy from elsewhere. All fishing retained by gunboat, then see what the scum will do. No dealing with France at all unless Marine le Penne gets in. 👺👺👺
Unfortunately I don't think BJ has the balls to walk away.
 
kes said:
Now would be a good time to create a CWTO Commonwealth Trade Organisation, demand of any supplier outside the group what we and they need. If India is included and all those who were once 'Empire' countries, we would all benefit and the EU would have to talk then with no guaranteed fishing rights !
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You're joking, right? All the deals done in West Africa and East Africa are by the Chinese. We can neither underbid them on price nor can we offer the "dash" (aka a "gift", a back hander, brown envelope, "dessous table") that they do. All the big projects...for example the new Lagos to Kano railway are Chinese. Or, but much less so, the United States.

"In 2006, the Nigerian government awarded a $8.3 billion contract to the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation to construct a standard gauge railway from Lagos to Kano."

And India, as they told the useless Theresa May back in November 2016, will want any future trade deal to not just be restricted to a) trade b) capital and c) services but also d) free movement of persons. In other words on the same basis as the UK had with the EU up until we Brexited (the EU "four freedoms").

Heath (another contender along with May as the most useless post-WWII Tory Prime Minister) effectively and very firmly closed the door on the Commonwealth in the 1970s. These countries have moved on. They don't need deals with the UK and if they do accept an invitation to negotiate deals they will most likely, as with India, demand these encompass a), b), c) and d) as above.
 
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Yup, looking forward to it, I am receiving major price hikes from suppliers already, all the companies are cacking themselves over the business next year.
Some COVID related but a lot now starting to come in over brexit.
Next year will be interesting for industry, prices are going up, it just depends by how much.
The country needs a deal, one way of the other. T
 
enfieldspares said:
You're joking, right? All the deals done in West Africa and East Africa are by the Chinese. We can neither underbid them on price nor can we offer the "dash" (aka a "gift", a back hander, brown envelope, "dessous table") that they do. All the big projects...for example the new Lagos to Kano railway are Chinese. Or, but much less so, the United States.

"In 2006, the Nigerian government awarded a $8.3 billion contract to the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation to construct a standard gauge railway from Lagos to Kano."

And India, as they told the useless Theresa May back in November 2016, will want any future trade deal to not just be restricted to a) trade b) capital and c) services but also d) free movement of persons. In other words on the same basis as the UK had with the EU up until we Brexited (the EU "four freedoms").

Heath (another contender along with May as the most useless post-WWII Tory Prime Minister) effectively and very firmly closed the door on the Commonwealth in the 1970s. These countries have moved on. They don't need deals with the UK and if they do accept an invitation to negotiate deals they will most likely, as with India, demand these encompass a), b), c) and d) as above.
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Thats very depressing and whilst I respect what you say I also hope you are wrong ! If Bo Jo agrees he's dead as a politician.
 
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