Mauser M12 Impact in 30-06

[Ozalid]

I am on the point of getting one, does anyone have any first hand experience of the M12 in 30-06?

Regards,
Al

 

[joed]

I thought the only calibres for the m12 impact were .243 and .308. I have it in .308 and love it.

 

[Sikadave84]

I don't have the impact but I do have the max which is the same but with a thumb hole laminate stock in 270. It's an excellent bit of kit and shoots sub MOA with factory ammo at 100 yards

Joed you can get them in pretty much every common calibre but its a special order from Germany if you want anything other than 243 or 308

 

[joed]

Ah ha! Thats good news then! I love my rifle. I think the one criticism has come from not being able to change the barrel. I dont see that as a problem due to the nature of its use with me.

 

[Ozalid]

They are readily available in 30-06 maybe not common, but not special order, it has a 22” barrel

 

[pendle]

And in 6.5x55

 

[norma 308]

i thought the only calibres for the m12 impact were .243 and .308. I have it in .308 and love it.

starting to do a few cals now love my 308

 

[John Gryphon]

I think the one criticism has come from not being able to change the barrel. .

That is what stopped me in my tracks as I had virtually ordered one to be used as a donor.

 

[joed]

And in 6.5x55

I was trying to avoid buying another rifle....

 

[Ozalid]

I have emailed Mauser to ask the average life of a barrel in ‘06. My decision whether to go ahead will be based on their answer

 

[Southern]

If you use the optimum powder for bullet weight, don't overheat the barrel, and take proper care of cleaning, a .30-06 will usually show no loss of accuracy before 5,000 rounds. Some harder barrels will go 20,000 rounds with more accuracy than needed for hunting. The same is true for some match barrels shooting bullets with less bearing surface and slower twist rates, like 1:12 instead of 1:10).

 

[ejg]

As far as I am aware Bergara makes the M12/101. Barrels should be of very good quality. Saying that every barrel manufacturer has the odd dud as well as a non stainless barrel might rust unknowingly or by lack of care etc. Maybe the achieved accuracy is just not good enough or one wants a cal change years down the road. Being able to change a barrel is better than not being able to change.
edi

 

[Ozalid]

I must admit I’m a bit put off by this, i will ask Mauser how much they would charge to replace the barrel as well as I don’t think it impossible just difficult

 

[Cawdor118]

I really cant understand from an engineering point of view how hard it could be to change these barrels? Sweat one and freeze the other. I can't see how it could be that hard with a jig? Maybe someone can enlighten me?

 

[Ozalid]

Well Mauser have ignored my polite emails, if this an example of Mauser support I’m not impressed

 

[Cottis]

I recently emailed them about something and they responded within a day. I think it was one of those "via their website" communication things. Just checked and it seems their website is not loading for some reason.

Maybe they have an IT issue. They certainly have no issues with their rifles, mine is stupid accurate and cycles like Bradley Wiggins

 

[ejg]

I really cant understand from an engineering point of view how hard it could be to change these barrels? Sweat one and freeze the other. I can't see how it could be that hard with a jig? Maybe someone can enlighten me?

Ever done it? Recon the old barrel must be turned out.
Not sure if the local rifle smith will be prepared to set up and organise all the gear to do the shrinking business. How many trials do you have to run to get it right?
You have to use a Barrel from Mauser, how long will that take to get? costs? available?
I know chances are the rifle will shoot fine for a very long time but one is never 100% sure. What I ask myself is... what is the second hand value if one does not know the round count?

I think there are better options.
edi

 

[Southern]

Sounds as difficult as removing and rebarreling a Steyr SBS.

If you are hell-bent on rebarreling, buy something with a screw in barrel ( Sako, Remington 700, Win M70), or a barrel held on with a barrel nut ( Savage 110, Marlin X7, Win XPR), or a spline and lock ( Sauer 202 )?

 

[Cawdor118]

I had one and a lucky chap on this forum bought it from a dealer I traded in to after I had fired 100 rounds through it. There are gems out there if you look. Not sure what he paid but it wouldn't have been full price for nearly a new rifle.

Ever done it? Recon the old barrel must be turned out.
Not sure if the local rifle smith will be prepared to set up and organise all the gear to do the shrinking business. How many trials do you have to run to get it right?
You have to use a Barrel from Mauser, how long will that take to get? costs? available?
I know chances are the rifle will shoot fine for a very long time but one is never 100% sure. What I ask myself is... what is the second hand value if one does not know the round count?

I think there are better options.
edi

 

[ejg]

Sounds as difficult as removing and rebarreling a Steyr SBS.

If you are hell-bent on rebarreling, buy something with a screw in barrel ( Sako, Remington 700, Win M70), or a barrel held on with a barrel nut ( Savage 110, Marlin X7, Win XPR), or a spline and lock ( Sauer 202 )?

Many are not hell-bent on re-barrelling, however. The M12 costs 1200 - 1700 Euros, up to maybe 2000 USD in your money (What we pay). With 22-250 or 243 you might only get 1500- 2000 rounds out of the button pulled barrel with integrated lugs... and it goes in the bin???
If you get a 2" rifle the manufacturer might say that is fine and your stuck with it, even better.
I don't see any advantage of the M12 except for the manufacturer.
edi