Merry Christmas & Thank You - BASC

Conor O'Gorman

Well-Known Member
Thank you to the SD members that have supported various campaigns to protect and promote shooting this year - especially the PCC and general election campaigns. Thank you to those SD members that are BASC members for financially supporting your Association's efforts for all. Thank you to the SD owners and admin for permitting me to post on here with BASC updates.

The following article covers many of BASC's activities in 2024:

2024: A year in BASC - celebrating wins, wagging tails and landmark achievements

There are challenges aplenty in 2025 and I hope many SD members will continue to support various BASC calls to action.

Merry Christmas and Thank You.
 
morning Conor, wishing you a happy Christmas,

as a BASC member, can I ask why BASC has backed both the lead ban and the certification increases when neither have any benefit to those impacted please ?

the lead ban decreases firearms effectiveness to the determent of the humane dispatching of target species with no evidence that the exposure risk specified is actually seen in the real world.

the certificate increases are only going to mean people will have to give up shooting yet there are no certificate term changes to off set - no increase in duration, no statutory turn around times, nothing.

Why is BASC accepting these changes to the determent of its paying members ?

cheers
 
morning Conor, wishing you a happy Christmas,

as a BASC member, can I ask why BASC has backed both the lead ban and the certification increases when neither have any benefit to those impacted please ?

the lead ban decreases firearms effectiveness to the determent of the humane dispatching of target species with no evidence that the exposure risk specified is actually seen in the real world.

the certificate increases are only going to mean people will have to give up shooting yet there are no certificate term changes to off set - no increase in duration, no statutory turn around times, nothing.

Why is BASC accepting these changes to the determent of its paying members ?

cheers
Nice , wish the chap happy Christmas then jump on his back when he is probably working out his reverse forecast bet for the King George 😉.


Both valid points of view.

However, in the world of real politic where organisations like BASC have no formal place let alone power. Influence can only be gained from being taken as credible by those with real power. That all too often requires sailing with the wind rather than ****ing into it. I think the answer to your question lies therein.

I did work out the number of tons of lead that must have been spread over one of our busy drives over the past 25 years. Future generations might be mining it !

On a brighter note steel shot will give poor shots another excuse for not clean killing ie tail ending them.
 
Exactly we possibly like to think BASC has more influence on government policy that it actually does.

NRA America it is not.
 
morning Conor, wishing you a happy Christmas,

as a BASC member, can I ask why BASC has backed both the lead ban and the certification increases when neither have any benefit to those impacted please ?

the lead ban decreases firearms effectiveness to the determent of the humane dispatching of target species with no evidence that the exposure risk specified is actually seen in the real world.

the certificate increases are only going to mean people will have to give up shooting yet there are no certificate term changes to off set - no increase in duration, no statutory turn around times, nothing.

Why is BASC accepting these changes to the determent of its paying members ?

cheers
Thanks, in response to your queries/concerns BASC has not backed a lead ban nor certificate increase nor is BASC accepting any changes. I will send you a direct message with my number and happy to talk to you in the New Year to listen to and understand your concerns and hopefully help address them.

Policy developments on lead ammunition and firearms licensing fees are key issues and strategy on these will continue to be determined by BASC Council - whose members are democratically elected by the membership - and decision making must abide by the BASC constitution - and as you point out, should not be to the detriment of members, or indeed sporting shooting.

Here are the first three clauses from the Roles and Objects section of the BASC constitution:

(a) Act as a representative national body for all sporting shooting.
(b) Promote and safeguard sporting shooting
(c) Ensure that sporting shooting complies with the principles of environmental, social and economic sustainability

Also this is relevant:

(g) Uphold and maintain the legitimate interest of its members in such a manner as this Association in General Meeting and by means of its Council shall decide, in particular with regard to:-

(i) proposals to restrict by legislation the use of sporting firearms; and
(ii) the lawful right of every member to shoot at sporting quarry with any firearm which this Association in General Meeting may consider appropriate but notwithstanding the provision of this rule or of any statement of policy expressed by members in General Meeting, the Council may if it considers it in the best interest of the Association, depart from such policy but shall report such departure at the next Annual General Meeting and state its reasons therefor.


With all that in mind nominations for the next Council elections close on 31 December:

 
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