Moderator Fitting

[gazmanthegun]

Sorry in advance for what is probably quite a “green” question.

I have just put a deposit down on my first .243. A new Tikka T3x Hunter. Needless to say I am chomping at the bit to pick it up when I (hopefully) get the paperwork through.

The barrel is already threaded, presumably a factory spec. Do I need a gunsmith to fit a moderator or can I do this?

I might want to buy a mod from someone other than the dealer I have bought the gun from.

Any advice gratefully received.

 

[Rory]

Find out what the thread is, then ensure a suitable moderator has the same thread. Putting it in and off is a user job, no gunsmith needed. Remember to take it off once you're done shooting and before storing the rifle.

 

[VSS]

Find out what the thread is, then ensure a suitable moderator has the same thread. Putting it in and off is a user job, no gunsmith needed. Remember to take it off once you're done shooting and before storing the rifle.

What he says

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

Can you fit a spare wheel on a car?
Its ten times easier…

Buy one that fits your thread and you can put the pointy end of the bullet in the front hole with a bit of wiggle room
Put some grease on the threads
Dont over tighten
Dont under tighten
Check occasionally to ensure tight
Fit to rifle when needed
Take off when not

Dont **** around stripping and cleaning
Quick squirt of light oil in the front hole and occasional rod/brush through if you must
Leave it alone

Go shoot stuff

 

[MAH]

I am chomping at the bit to pick it up when I (hopefully) get the paperwork through

Have you applied for a moderator on your certificate?
M.

 

[Sika98k]

Can you fit a spare wheel on a car?
Its ten times easier…

Buy one that fits your thread and you can put the pointy end of the bullet in the front hole with a bit of wiggle room
Put some grease on the threads
Dont over tighten
Dont under tighten
Check occasionally to ensure tight
Fit to rifle when needed
Take off when not

Dont **** around stripping and cleaning
Quick squirt of light oil in the front hole and occasional rod/brush through if you must
Leave it alone

Go shoot stuff

White man speak with straight tongue. Don’t use Coppergrease though.

 

[Rutland lad]

White man speak with straight tongue. Don’t use Coppergrease though.

May I ask why not ?

 

[Tim.243]

Can you fit a spare wheel on a car?
Its ten times easier…

Buy one that fits your thread and you can put the pointy end of the bullet in the front hole with a bit of wiggle room
Put some grease on the threads
Dont over tighten
Dont under tighten
Check occasionally to ensure tight
Fit to rifle when needed
Take off when not

Dont **** around stripping and cleaning
Quick squirt of light oil in the front hole and occasional rod/brush through if you must
Leave it alone

Go shoot stuff

Glad you posted that, as It sounds much better coming from your good self.

 

[Sika98k]

May I ask why not ?

Apparently the reaction of burnt gases with copper grease will rot the threads. It certainly did on a rifle I owned and gave not used it since on any threaded rifles and had no problems.

 

[gazmanthegun]

Thanks for all replies. Put my mind at rest and certainly some useful tips. I will be covered for the mod on my FAC. Cheers all

 

[Rutland lad]

Apparently the reaction of burnt gases with copper grease will rot the threads. It certainly did on a rifle I owned and gave not used it since on any threaded rifles and had no problems.

Interesting. I have used it, albeit with just a very small amount and I’ve not had any issues at all. I must stress it’s the tiniest amount from a very small syringe just touched onto the thread.

 

[Utectok]

Never bothered with anything on the threads it’s seems to work just fine. There’s plenty of mods out there but I’d advise to get a light one. We all started with T8s which were heavy and rusty things. Last one I got was the lightest Freyer And Devik ultimate silence which should be great on a .243 quiet and light and robust… bit spenny though

 

[wabbit warren]

totally off subject-ish i use good old Vaseline on the thread of my barrel good as any grease and cheap as chips
i do run a nylon brush through my mod before i go out and also when i come back as most my shooting is done on cold nights
and i seem to get a build up of a white crystal stuff only stripped and cleaned the mod once it needed it and was a messy dirty job

 

[Rory]

Interesting. I have used it, albeit with just a very small amount and I’ve not had any issues at all. I must stress it’s the tiniest amount from a very small syringe just touched onto the thread.

I was told by the MAE suppressor guy to use nickel grease, which avoids galvanic corrosion that may occur with copper grease.
I imagine if you clean it off and reapply every time, then it probably is a minor concern as to which grease is used.

 

[gds]

I use Aimsport Thread Paste, on barrel end and mainly on the two piece suppressor connecting threads.
The Stalon X149 will fuse together with time if not lubed.

 

[bullet chucker]

The thread protector on your rifle will be thread needed, If there is any doubt. Don't loose it USE IT.

BC.

 

[ChesterP]

Nickle grease (sparingly) is what I'd use. That or a very light coating of gun oil and wipe the excess off. Main thing is to ensure you clean the threads after each outing with a nylon brush to stop carbon build up.

 

[M@tt]

There's something written down about not putting a deposit down on a firearm you do not have permission to possess.

What I do is take a refundable fee to not sell a firearm to someone else.

ETA:

You may only take a deposit on a purchase prior to sight of the relevant certificate giving authority to purchase the firearm.

I'm away at the moment but when I get back I'll see if I can find a statute reference.

 

[kenbro]

There's something written down about not putting a deposit down on a firearm you do not have permission to possess.

What I do is take a refundable fee to not sell a firearm to someone else.

ETA:

That’s a new one on me.
Long time ago I tried to pay in full for a rifle I needed a variation to own.
Shop owner accepted the price minus £1, said it would be like selling it if he took full money.
If the above is law I can’t see many adhering to it.
Ken.

 

[M@tt]

Police Scotland FAQ - scroll down to the "What are my obligations?" bit. Shame they don't reference the law.

I can't find any law reference, I'm abroad and internet is a pain on slow WiFi and I keep losing connections.

From memory there was something about legal definition of the two types of possession (Actual and Constructive) and how it relates to firearms possession. There's a bit on the FACs about purchasing or acquiring a firearm without legal authority and a deposit possibly grants some measure of control or ownership, but how a court will see that is for a cleverer brain than I have available.

As an RFD I've been told I should not take a deposit (no legal reference given) and even BASC advised not doing it (again, no reference).