My Hunting Dogs.

CAVHUNT

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Well... being new to the forum this will be my inaugural commencement of a thread. I'm a bit unsure of the protocols on TSD so if I step out of line please give me a nudge.

Your Deer Dogs & Tracking board is a natural home for me. I'm an old fella and have had dogs all my life and became a dog trainer, and dog breeder with all revolving around hunting. Weimaraners were my chosen breed and they did well in the obedience ring but my specialty was hunting and I couldn't ask for better over my 40 odd years with them. But I broke with tradition by accident when a 3 year old Blenheim King Charles Cavalier Spaniel arrived in my back yard because his owner didn't want him, he was badly neglected and had no training at all. Not even on lead walking. This was Henry. I saw 'something' in him which sparked my interest/curiosity and decided to go down an usual path with him. He was bright, intelligent, liked to learn and was comfortable in different surroundings. What I ended up with was a dog that apart from his early apprenticeship where he learnt obedience, learnt what animals I was interested in, learnt what gunfire was all about, learnt to hold a point. It all came together over some18 months and we hunted sambar and wild dogs together. It always brought a wry smile to my face when out bush with him and he'd indicate there's a sambar in that patch of bush. An 8Kg Cavalier vs a 300KG sambar deer? Evenly matched I'd say.

But it wasn't all fun and he had his issues. At around 6 years of age he was diagnosed with Syringomyelia...fluid bubbles in his spinal cord. This caused a bucket load of neural issues. Still...I undertook 12 weeks of research on the disease and came up with a game plan/meds etc and he soldiered on. Then when he was only a year or two older his Mitral Valve Disease began kicking in and it wasn't until he was 12 that it began to take a heavier toll on him. We still went out every day but at his pace and he determined when it was home time. At age 14 & 1/2 he died in my arms...just 10 minutes before the vet arrived at home for his euthanasia. We were that close his loss almost broke me.

I now have another Cav Spaniel... a Tricolour ...Missy. She has a big job ahead of her learning to be a working gun dog and is well on her way to emulating her predecessor.

As I said I am unsure of posting here. I don't know how much detail on training/hunting/medical techniques/info to go in to if at all. If I am out of line so far please let me know or similarly the same if more is wanted/appropriate.

I have often wondered about whether or not people in your part of the world use their Cavs for hunting. I had a look through the forum but couldn't find anything.

Any way...thanks for reading. My apols if it's too long.
 
Well... being new to the forum this will be my inaugural commencement of a thread. I'm a bit unsure of the protocols on TSD so if I step out of line please give me a nudge.

Your Deer Dogs & Tracking board is a natural home for me. I'm an old fella and have had dogs all my life and became a dog trainer, and dog breeder with all revolving around hunting. Weimaraners were my chosen breed and they did well in the obedience ring but my specialty was hunting and I couldn't ask for better over my 40 odd years with them. But I broke with tradition by accident when a 3 year old Blenheim King Charles Cavalier Spaniel arrived in my back yard because his owner didn't want him, he was badly neglected and had no training at all. Not even on lead walking. This was Henry. I saw 'something' in him which sparked my interest/curiosity and decided to go down an usual path with him. He was bright, intelligent, liked to learn and was comfortable in different surroundings. What I ended up with was a dog that apart from his early apprenticeship where he learnt obedience, learnt what animals I was interested in, learnt what gunfire was all about, learnt to hold a point. It all came together over some18 months and we hunted sambar and wild dogs together. It always brought a wry smile to my face when out bush with him and he'd indicate there's a sambar in that patch of bush. An 8Kg Cavalier vs a 300KG sambar deer? Evenly matched I'd say.

But it wasn't all fun and he had his issues. At around 6 years of age he was diagnosed with Syringomyelia...fluid bubbles in his spinal cord. This caused a bucket load of neural issues. Still...I undertook 12 weeks of research on the disease and came up with a game plan/meds etc and he soldiered on. Then when he was only a year or two older his Mitral Valve Disease began kicking in and it wasn't until he was 12 that it began to take a heavier toll on him. We still went out every day but at his pace and he determined when it was home time. At age 14 & 1/2 he died in my arms...just 10 minutes before the vet arrived at home for his euthanasia. We were that close his loss almost broke me.

I now have another Cav Spaniel... a Tricolour ...Missy. She has a big job ahead of her learning to be a working gun dog and is well on her way to emulating her predecessor.

As I said I am unsure of posting here. I don't know how much detail on training/hunting/medical techniques/info to go in to if at all. If I am out of line so far please let me know or similarly the same if more is wanted/appropriate.

I have often wondered about whether or not people in your part of the world use their Cavs for hunting. I had a look through the forum but couldn't find anything.

Any way...thanks for reading. My apols if it's too long.
Nice intro, I have Cocker Spaniels they are a line from this lad.
Don't use them on deer but they will find what I ask them to
 
Excellent intro from you ,, a well trained intelligent dog is a great asset ,, so I'm told 🤣🤦
 
Thanks Tim. Appreciate your response. Cockers are a rarity here. I haven't seen one for years or should that be decades.
Hi arron. I'm glad you liked my intro. Yes...'so I'm told' hehe. Dire thoughts cross my mind when all I can see is the south end of my dog going north.
Scarpa - :)
 
Thanks Tim. Appreciate your response. Cockers are a rarity here. I haven't seen one for years or should that be decades.
Hi arron. I'm glad you liked my intro. Yes...'so I'm told' hehe. Dire thoughts cross my mind when all I can see is the south end of my dog going north.
Scarpa - :)
The old lad and his son having a ball. :love:

 
I ran a woodcock shoot in Mayo for over 30 years. Two highlights spring to mind.
My deer hound greyhound cross coursing a woodcock a couple of feet above the ground through the gun line. And the other was one of my beaters bringing mother and daughter Cavalier King Charles in the beating line. Two of the hardiest little dogs that ever came out.
 
Tim...your vid of your Cocker doing a retrieve, stopping on command and hand delivering the bird is magnificent...and he loved doing it so much he couldn't wait to do it all over again. That is great training with an intelligent dog who is trying his best to please you...and himself hehe. Down here Cockers are often derided as being nuts and too difficult to train.

Hello ion, nice to hear from you. I had to Google "ion" and "Mayo" lol. I can imagine how much fun your Greyhound/Deer Hound cross was having. I find such events usually stick in the mind resurface at irregular times...often triggered by the dog doing something momentous.

Wow!! Two Cavs in the beating line and you rate them as being hardy little dogs. fantastic! Their efforts that day certainly seemed to impress you....and rightly so.

I find with my Cavs when out stalking sambar that they suffer badly on cold days when it's raining. Their single layer fur lets the rain penetrate and sit on their skin which chills them. On such days I don't go hunting because even though they love it and be so excited when they see the rifle come out of the safe it's not worth the risk to their health. Putting coats on them didn't help either. I did try several times going hunting with out them but it was so boring and no fun without a bustling, furry packet of excitement at my feet. Plus the look of disappointment on their faces when they realized they were staying home. It made me feel terrible. So no...no dog = no hunting.
 
My two cockers are used for anything. Chasing deer or boar and birds out in the water or in dry fields. As said, the cockersr rely on guidence i.e. will do what is instructed, like pointing an arm in a certain direction.
Never really a need a leash but when tracing a wounded moose or boar/deer a leash is the way.
Best with cockers: they never run away, always come back
Negative: can be of a nuisance now that they are turbo loaded
 

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Nice intro, I have Cocker Spaniels they are a line from this lad.
Don't use them on deer but they will find what I ask them to

Have you ever tried them on deer, Tim?
My daughter has a cocker for deer tracking and it's very good at it, even if a bit of a loony!
 
Have you ever tried them on deer, Tim?
My daughter has a cocker for deer tracking and it's very good at it, even if a bit of a loony!
Finn and Toby would find them Tim, a few things stop me with the top of the list is a wounded muntjac buck would rip the side out of my dog in a second so there is no chance I would put them through that on top vets bills la la la recovery also I have to live with that by sending them in.
second in the summer months the grass seeds down the ear is a problem with cockers and despite the gentlest of vets they had to sedate chip and toby to get them out.
Come the fallow doe season I will have a couple of the lads with me so Finn might come out on the lead for the experience with one laying dead in the middle of a field.
 
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