New law to retake driving test at 65

[Jh1986]

Good opportunity to post a video of my mother-in-law, trying to park in our empty driveway. To give an indication of width, I can get our Kia Sportage, and another normal width car, side by side through those posts (just).



How much more driving do you think she's got in her?

 

[Bowland blades]

How can they take away this , most folks 50+ ? like me have 7.5 tonne lorries and they cannot revoke even revoke those from someone in their 80s . Taking car licences off really old folks is too big a challenge " legally"

 

[User00047]

Good opportunity to post a video of my mother-in-law, trying to park in our empty driveway. To give an indication of width, I can get our Kia Sportage, and another normal width car, side by side through those posts (just).



How much more driving do you think she's got in her?

Why didn’t she just drive straight in there?

 

[Jh1986]

Why didn’t she just drive straight in there?

You mean you want her to reverse out into the road... After what you just saw

It's on a bend, blind, 30mph which means people whizz round at 40mph plus. Best reversing in and driving out.

 

[User00047]

You mean you want her to reverse out into the road... After what you just saw

It's on a bend, blind, 30mph which means people whizz round at 40mph plus. Best reversing in and driving out.

Fair enough if you can’t turn the car in that space.
Maybe she could benefit from some driving lessons ?
A Mother’s Day present perhaps?

 

[Jh1986]

Fair enough if you can’t turn the car in that space.
Maybe she could benefit from some driving lessons ?

Her issue is that bloody rear camera. It's like she can only reverse using that now and ignores all other windows/mirrors. She also has this odd inability to just leave a steering wheel the f*** alone. "It's straight, you want to go straight back... Why are you steering?"

She's ok with general driving. Just manoeuvres she's shocking.

 

[willowbank]

Took my test 'back in the day'....see no reason why I would have to do it all again.

What on earth could have changed since then?


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AND I expect the standard of tuition was far higher than that of today. Half the people on the roads today cannot revererse and have absolutely no ability to imagine what just be stationary around the bend... don’t get me started on the pr*ts who drive without lights in heavy rain, especially on a motorway in a grey car.
God I feel better now ...

(Little story, a few years ago in a handbook it used to give instructions on changing a wheel, nowadays this has been edited to a warning not to drink the battery acid, not that today’s yoof would be able to top up a battery.)

Think I’m done now,,, WB

 

[Foxyboy43]

Good opportunity to post a video of my mother-in-law, trying to park in our empty driveway. To give an indication of width, I can get our Kia Sportage, and another normal width car, side by side through those posts (just).



How much more driving do you think she's got in her?

Excellent!
Forgive me, just curious so can I just enquire - does your MiL have a really, like really, long left arm?

 

[Jh1986]

Excellent!
Forgive me, just curious so can I just enquire - does your MiL have a really, like really, long left arm?

As much as I want to say yes and just leave it there... My wife was passenger, and trying to protect our gates.

 

[jimmy milnes]

Sounds like a great idea.
Health, eyesight, reaction times etc. can deteriorate quickly at that age in some people.
This would keep everyone a bit safer on the road.

I think more accidents are caused by young drivers who have better health, eyesight and reaction times but just drive like tw4ts because they think they're on a race track.
Jimmy

 

[Jh1986]

One could also argue that the accident data is skewed by which accidents actually get reported. Younger people don't have the same ability to settle outside of insurance, and their accidents may be of higher speed therefore higher damage. Older people probably tend to have more low speed manoeuvre accidents. Minor scrapes and things. They likely don't report them and either settle it themselves, or as I've seen plenty of old people do, just try and drive off

 

[AlexD]

Took my test 'back in the day'....see no reason why I would have to do it all again.
What on earth could have changed since then?

Whilst cars change for the better other than electronic hand brakes, laws change for the worse. However, resitting a test is not the way to handle that. A simple flyer sent out by DVLC when they change the law would be helpful, so would stickers on hire vans .

I got nicked for speeding the other day, the 2nd time my life, doing 70mph on a dual carriageway, while driving a hire van. When I passed my test, anything under 3.5 tons had the same speed limit as cars, unless you are pulling a trailer. Now any van, no matter how light, is max 60mph on a dual carriageway and max 50mph on country roads. Something I was dumb enough not to be aware of, despite driving vans regularly for over 40 years.

The cameras now work out what sort of vehicle you are, as well as what speed you have been going. Warning to anyone else who was not aware of that.

 

[cjm1066]

Look at how H&S works in employment, new machine/process they retrain you. Some training such as excavations is repeated and ticketed for limited periods.

Now the Government, smart motorways no training, change the highway code and a few adverts cover it. CPD might be better cheaper and more effective.

 

[maximus otter]

Anything - anything - to make driving more involved and expensive.

Are we not seeing the pattern yet?

maximus otter

 

[jimmy milnes]

I think more accidents are caused by young drivers who have better health, eyesight and reaction times but just drive like tw4ts because they think they're on a race track.
Jimmy

Reported road casualties in Great Britain: younger driver factsheet, 2021

www.gov.uk

The statistics look like its yet another money making scam

 

[Len the dog]

Since when did passing a driving test have any bearing on being a good and safe driver, all it proves is that you knew how to pass that test on the day.
Not a day goes by that I don’t see examples of bad/unsafe/inconsiderate driving from old & young alike, the only difference being that the young drivers have only recently passed the driving test.

 

[Len the dog]

Reported road casualties in Great Britain: younger driver factsheet, 2021

www.gov.uk

The statistics look like its yet another money making scam

Indeed. The age range defined as ‘younger driver’ is a very narrow band of 8 years, so perhaps around 12% of drivers, yet they are involved in 21% of injurious accidents, something that is quite obviously backed up by insurance premiums.
My son passed his test 18 months ago at the age of 17 so we went out and bought him a car, for him to get his first insurance premium down to a little under £1100 we had to include myself and my wife as named drivers and also fit a black box. Without a black box there were very few companies that would quote and the cheapest was still close to £4k. Myself on the other hand who has been driving for nigh on forty years, insurance is a couple of hundred quid.
The insurance companies are like bookies, they aren’t in the business of losing.

Perhaps it is the younger drivers that should be tested every couple of years, with the retest frequency reducing as they get older.

 

[Jh1986]

Indeed. The age range defined as ‘younger driver’ is a very narrow band of 8 years, so perhaps around 12% of drivers, yet they are involved in 21% of injurious accidents, something that is quite obviously backed up by insurance premiums.
My son passed his test 18 months ago at the age of 17 so we went out and bought him a car, for him to get his first insurance premium down to a little under £1100 we had to include myself and my wife as named drivers and also fit a black box. Without a black box there were very few companies that would quote and the cheapest was still close to £4k. Myself on the other hand who has been driving for nigh on forty years, insurance is a couple of hundred quid.
The insurance companies are like bookies, they aren’t in the business of losing.

Perhaps it is the younger drivers that should be tested every couple of years, with the retest frequency reducing as they get older.

Careful with that black box though. They love to use them to cancel the policy at minor infractions (things like accelerating too hard, never mind you are joining on a slip road). You then have to tick to say you've had a policy cancellation or refusal on future quotes, which is even worse

 

[Len the dog]

Careful with that black box though. They love to use them to cancel the policy at minor infractions (things like accelerating too hard, never mind you are joining on a slip road). You then have to tick to say you've had a policy cancellation or refusal on future quotes, which is even worse

We checked all that, this particular policy will give a written warning if the driving style isn't acceptable and gives credit to improvements in driving style. That said, there isn't a choice now for new young drivers, take the black box or don't drive.

Unfortunately I can see this being rolled out for everyone in the not too distant future, no need for speed cameras if you're being tracked by satellite.

Not sure how the Police would like their revenue stream being taken away though.

 

[User00047]

Careful with that black box though. They love to use them to cancel the policy at minor infractions (things like accelerating too hard, never mind you are joining on a slip road). You then have to tick to say you've had a policy cancellation or refusal on future quotes, which is even worse

Big brother is watching!!