Omicron

[Sharpie]

Bit of a contradiction in terms that, how does one 'catch' a disease they are supposedly immunised against ?

Maybe by attending a "Covid party", as have recently been banned in Switzerland.

Round up some, hopefully, shedders, for the virus, party, kiss, whatever. Yes they did (and still do, but more discretely).

No vaccination, but proof of having had it, later, after a test. Gets you a Covid passport. The natural way, AKA the Novak Djokovic excuse. But that didn't seem to work for him, hadn't got his ducks quite in a row.

Many many years ago some idiots used to think that was a good idea to get their children infected at an early age with measles. Measles parties. Before there was a vaccine for it. Measles, BTW is horrible, I and other brothers were damaged by it. In my case, my ears, in others their teeth, and all of us in various ways.

ISTM that the start of the anti-vax hysteria was stirred up in the UK by one person, struck off eventually, but still around elsewhere. The MMR/Autism scare. Or was that all just an establishment coverup ? It lingers on, even now.

That was even a bit before "social media" was quite what it is today. Where everyone's opinion/prejudice/insanity/belief is judged equally valid. I of course am guilty of that myself.

 

[Rewulf]

No vaccination, but proof of having had it, later, after a test. Gets you a Covid passport. The natural way, AKA the Novak Djokovic excuse. But that didn't seem to work for him, hadn't got his ducks quite in a row.

He picked Australia to trial his 'covid passport' probably would have worked anywhere else but there and NZ, what he didnt bank on was Aus has been returned to closed penal colony status.

Many many years ago some idiots used to think that was a good idea to get their children infected at an early age with measles.

Yes, it was called going to school.

Before there was a vaccine for it. Measles, BTW is horrible, I and other brothers were damaged by it. In my case, my ears, in others their teeth, and all of us in various ways.

I had them all , not pleasant , but not damaged by it personally.

ISTM that the start of the anti-vax hysteria was stirred up in the UK by one person, struck off eventually, but still around elsewhere. The MMR/Autism scare. Or was that all just an establishment coverup ? It lingers on, even now.

The number of alleged vaccine injuries , pales into insignificance against covid vaccines.
And being concerned about a vaccine , especially one which was rushed out , and made compulsory very quickly, is not being anti vax.

 

[zambezi]

As more of us are exposed and gain natural immunity, the rationale for vaccines wanes.

A Taiwanese study this month showed that folk who had been exposed to SARS-CoV-1 had retained immunological response against the SARS-CoV-2 antigen after 18 years.

SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Response After ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 Vaccination in Persons With Previous SARS-CoV-1 Infection

This comparative effectiveness research study compares antibody levels after ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccination in individuals with or without previous SARS-CoV-1 infection.

jamanetwork.com

 

[Morkai]

 

[Fair Hill]

Science continues to advance in the battle to save lives and it looks likely that Paxlovid will soon be approved for use by the European Medicines Agency, all going well we'll have this virus beaten by St. Patrick's Day.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/ask-pfizer-covid-paxlovid-faq-1.6325546

 

[Rewulf]

Science continues to advance in the battle to save lives and it looks likely that Paxlovid will soon be approved for use by the European Medicines Agency, all going well we'll have this virus beaten by St. Patrick's Day.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/ask-pfizer-covid-paxlovid-faq-1.6325546

At a cost of £500 per course for paxlovid and £700 a course for molnupirivir , science does indeed continue to advance... big pharmas profit margin
I reckon Irelands going to need another EU loan to pay for all that.
You would think St Paddy would come back and banish all the covid from the Emerald Isle ?

 

[Fair Hill]

At a cost of £500 per course for paxlovid and £700 a course for molnupirivir , science does indeed continue to advance... big pharmas profit margin
I reckon Irelands going to need another EU loan to pay for all that.
You would think St Paddy would come back and banish all the covid from the Emerald Isle ?

What value do place on a human life?

I’d pay multiples of that to have back the friends lost to COVID.

How much do you think it costs to treat a sick person in an ICU?

 

[Rewulf]

What value do place on a human life?

Depends who's paying for it I suppose.

If we are talking governments paying the bills via your taxes, then it really depends.
The antivirals are going to be used to save people, who are seriously ill with covid, and may not survive without it.
Like many hospital decision making processes, age and survivability are going to factor in.
To put it bluntly, the value of human life depends on how much of it is left in you.

 

[Rasputin]

What value do place on a human life?

Age (x) tax receipts still able to be collected. If it’s above a certain amount keep, dips below well off to dignitas you go.

Would soon get a handle on this reckless government spending for health care and over population issue.

 

[Fair Hill]

Depends who's paying for it I suppose.

If we are talking governments paying the bills via your taxes, then it really depends.
The antivirals are going to be used to save people, who are seriously ill with covid, and may not survive without it.
Like many hospital decision making processes, age and survivability are going to factor in.
To put it bluntly, the value of human life depends on how much of it is left in you.

That's just the kind of gobbledygook answer I expected from you which is the reason I usually refrain from engaging with you.

 

[Rewulf]

That's just the kind of gobbledygook answer I expected from you which is the reason I usually refrain from engaging with you.

I f you took some time off from thinking about St Patricks day , and thought about the response from me , you would realise ,this is not my opinion , its health service doctrine.
They have a budget, and finite resources , theyve spent the last 2 years telling us to stay at home , wear masks, get your jabs , so we dont swamp the health services with our useless diseased bodies.
They sent covid infected patients back to their nursing homes to infect the place, and kill the occupants.
The NHS stopped being an efficient service when they started running it like a business , with monetary goals....

They have further proved my point with the reckless abandonment of people with curable diseases , who are now going to die , because GPs still flatly refuse to see them.
Its not gobblydygook , its just plain facts, if you dont like to hear them , get hitting that ignore button, and retreat back into your bubble.

 

[Morkai]

Nice to here the proposal from BoJo of dropping it all.

Whilst I dont like him, I'm glad hes always in trouble and each time he does get more flak he has less moral authority to keep the unnecessary restrictions in place.

Keep getting in Trouble, Boris, and keep on track to drop all this nonsense.

 

[mchughcb]

Well it's all falling like a house of cards in Canada, soon to follow the UK.

Luckily Australia, China and NZ can still hold the fort. You, I, together we can eliminate the virus by the use of heavily policed health measures.

 

[mchughcb]

What value do place on a human life?

I’d pay multiples of that to have back the friends lost to COVID.

How much do you think it costs to treat a sick person in an ICU?

Well lets not dwell on the past.
What about multiples to the friends still alive, that way you can do your bit.
ICU cost, well its in the thousands per day.

 

[Rasputin]

Well it's all falling like a house of cards in Canada, soon to follow the UK.

Luckily Australia, China and NZ can still hold the fort. You, I, together we can eliminate the virus by the use of heavily policed health measures.

Nah Covid’s over in the UK all restrictions going imminently. It’s almost like he is trying to cover something up .

Next will the jab requirements for travel slowly eroded until it becomes oh we have just wasted everyone’s times thanks very much.

 

[mchughcb]

I'm sure they will send in the army soon. The police have been filmed arresting a grandfather but we need to take this to the next level.

 

[mchughcb]

What value do place on a human life?

I’d pay multiples of that to have back the friends lost to COVID.

How much do you think it costs to treat a sick person in an ICU?

Have you invited all your remaining friends to isolate at your place temporarily as we all together eliminate this virus through heavily policed health pandemic measures?

 

[Freeforester]

‘The Batman’ Peter Daszak reminds us back in Feb of 2016 what he and his Chinese chums were trying to do, but ended up paying with fire and causing everyone to sh1t themselves (remember the loo roll thing, lol?) - or so it would seem; funny old world, eh?

1:15:47 to 1:18:25 for those who prefer to skip the foreplay:

Pandemics

Sonia Shah moderated a forum on emerging infectious diseases and the next pandemic. The event began with Ms. Shah discussing her book, [Pandemic: Tracking Contagions, From Cholera to Ebola and Beyond].

www.c-span.org

 

[Freeforester]

A little on the potential impacts of the after effects of certain treatments:
Again, if you don’t want it all, head for 17minutes in to get the research findings about those clever S1 protein particles used to ‘protect‘ folk. Of course, it won’t happen, eh?

 

[Fair Hill]

Have you invited all your remaining friends to isolate at your place temporarily as we all together eliminate this virus through heavily policed health pandemic measures?

I'm sure that made perfectly good sense to you when you were typing it but to be honest man you lost me months ago with your ramblings.

Have you tried going back outside for a nice walk or maybe phoning a friend?