Panic sets in on a hog hunt!

[Greener Jim]

I have no doubt that the Grendel will kill first shot.

That been said, without follow up shots how far would they get? Seems like it'd be pretty far.

How bout a more powerful cartridge but heavier rifle. Less recoil then so the NV can hack it. Does mean that you have t carry it like!

I bow to your experience with the Grendel, just thinking of other options

 

[xavierdoc]

Sharing the good and the bad helps us all learn (just see my thread on the error of using other peoples' homeloads!)

I've just posted a video of my first NV experience. I had an embarrassing miss and some fumbling to reload an empty mag!

Here's the link. Watch and laugh/cringe! I bet you pull the trigger a few times on the "poacher"!

 

[Double Naught Spy]

The power of the internet!
I hope you didn't mind me posting it up.
Cheers
Richard

Richard, no problem. That is how Youtube works. I ended up finding a new forum in the process.

Nice vid, xavierdoc! Thanks for sharing. Can't believe he stayed around that long for you to get a shot.

 

[RPA 6MM BR]

I have no doubt that the Grendel will kill first shot.

That been said, without follow up shots how far would they get? Seems like it'd be pretty far.

How bout a more powerful cartridge but heavier rifle. Less recoil then so the NV can hack it. Does mean that you have t carry it like!

I bow to your experience with the Grendel, just thinking of other options

Unfortunately with NV rifle weight etc has no bearing on recoil impulse doing damage to the tube etc as it's not the felt recoil that does the damage. I was told this by more than one NV expert when I was buying my PVS-14

 

[Greener Jim]

Surely adding weight to any rifle reduces the recoil velocity and energy.
That's not felt recoil reduction, that's actual recoil reduction.

That's always been my understanding of recoil and physics in general.

 

[Alistair]

Surely adding weight to any rifle reduces the recoil velocity and energy.
That's not felt recoil reduction, that's actual recoil reduction.

That's always been my understanding of recoil and physics in general.

It depends. What you are actually doing when you add weight is reducing the acceleration of the rifle due to f=ma. The actual recoil energy is independent of the rifle mass, and is dependent solely on the chemical energy released from the powder (Ke=(.5)(m)(v2)). This therefore results in a reduction of recoil velocity, but the same energy is transferred to your body. However, damage to optics and 'felt recoil' is usually a result of a rapid transfer of force and so will be reduced by adding weight. This is the principle utilised by recoil reducing devices, they slow the transfer of energy to the person.

 

[Greener Jim]

Happy with that. The more you know eh
Increasing weight does decrease the recoil energy though, by reducing velocity by adding weight and as we know halving weight halves energy but halving velocity quarters energy.
Added weight also slows the acceleration.

So am I now right in saying that increasing weight will reduce recoil and therefore optics will survive better?
Because I always though that to be the case.

 

[Alistair]

Sadly not. Energy is always conserved. If weight is doubled then velocity will drop by 25% only unfortunately. But yes, you are essentially correct. Heavy gun=better optics survival

 

[204rem]

Close call I think a change of underpants is needed ha

 

[mchughcb]

I'd use primos trigger shooting sticks. I use them all the time and you can see plenty of my hunting videos on YouTube. If you are walking in undisturbed on a hog at 55 yards you really should be aiming for the first shot to be fatal.

With regards to lead on running animals see my videos using a drilling lol !

 

[Luke.243]

Agh, a fine example of Tetley tea bag. 1,000 perforations. Great video.