Pcp air rifle
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MW73
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Air arms s400/410 HW100 any of the Daystates are all a good shout, make sure they hold air. Calibre wise I've always opted for 177. The Airarms come up quite often and are more affordable than the Daystates, the HW100 magazine is possibly the best on the market in my honest opinion.
Target or hunting , most target shots settle for .177 and hunters .22
In my day ( the dark ages
) they used to say .177 for feather and .22 for fur but I was never that sure of that
shot a hell of a lot of rabbits with a BSA Cadet Major in .177 ( springer) when I was kid of course I hadn't been told it was not enough gun at that time, it all went to pot once I was told.
In my day ( the dark ages
) they used to say .177 for feather and .22 for fur but I was never that sure of thatshot a hell of a lot of rabbits with a BSA Cadet Major in .177 ( springer) when I was kid of course I hadn't been told it was not enough gun at that time, it all went to pot once I was told.
Depends what your needs are and what your budget is but dependable options start with the Air Arms S200 and 400 series rifles. I like Weihrauch HW100s, which are easy to maintain. They'll all be tack drivers when you find which pellets suit them JSB Exacts are often good in HW100s and can be had in different head diameters.
.177 vs .22 is just the same old calibre can of worms debate, with good head shots it probably makes no difference. The smaller calibre with higher velocity may provide less margin for error at longer range.
.177 vs .22 is just the same old calibre can of worms debate, with good head shots it probably makes no difference. The smaller calibre with higher velocity may provide less margin for error at longer range.
Bit like cars really, what are you intending to use it for, how much do you want to spend,
Just a few tips, get an air tank to refill it, get one that's regulated, go to a local gunshop and have a handle of some,
choose between a wooden stock or a tactical one,
.177 is probably the most common, and easier to re-sell if you want to upgrade.
Also join and try your local gun club, they will have members who will guide you, and they may have some rifles for sale.
There are thousands for sale out there, so do your research, and try as many as you can,
When you decide which one you want, go on tinternet and ask for the problems relating to the one you want,
All this before you actually buy one.
Just a few tips, get an air tank to refill it, get one that's regulated, go to a local gunshop and have a handle of some,
choose between a wooden stock or a tactical one,
.177 is probably the most common, and easier to re-sell if you want to upgrade.
Also join and try your local gun club, they will have members who will guide you, and they may have some rifles for sale.
There are thousands for sale out there, so do your research, and try as many as you can,
When you decide which one you want, go on tinternet and ask for the problems relating to the one you want,
All this before you actually buy one.
bsa ultra secondhand with a scope , won't be more than £400 but will need either a pump or air bottle so probably £500 all in. Thats what i use on the rats around my chickens in .22 superb piece of kit and easy to work on if things go wrong. The airgun bbs and airgun forum will be the best place to pick up a nice one.
ive also a r10/hw100/goldstar/fx2000 but the ultra is as good as any. either 177/22 will do the job
ive also a r10/hw100/goldstar/fx2000 but the ultra is as good as any. either 177/22 will do the job
robert16
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I have an a s410 supalite in .22
It’s had a regulator fitted and set up by Carl at airtech with paper work .and has just sat in the cupboard after being sighted in
Comes with magazine .bipod ,silencer .fill adaptor ,and a hawke panorama scope plus carry bag
Looking for 450£ firm if you are interested
It’s had a regulator fitted and set up by Carl at airtech with paper work .and has just sat in the cupboard after being sighted in
Comes with magazine .bipod ,silencer .fill adaptor ,and a hawke panorama scope plus carry bag
Looking for 450£ firm if you are interested
I bought a second hand Air Arms S410 (think thats the proper name?) about three years ago in .177cal. It has been a revelation even though I was brought up with air rifles!! The accuracy has astounded me. Out to about 50yds anything I want to hit gets hit, and I have used it for several seasons now reducing the feral pigeon population at a local stables where my daughter and wife have a couple of old hay-burners... Not saying that springers aren't great too mind you as I also have had a pair of German engineered break barrels that have been tuned by me and are accurate too. Just that this PCP takes a lot less effort and practice to get the best out of.
I believe an AirArms S410 would serve you well as they are not that expensive to start with, and though pretty basic as far as really up to date PCPs are concerned (like say the Daystate range) they give excellent service imho...
Don't need a high level scope either cos the ranges are so short, which is another saver. DON'T be trapped into buying a high spec' scope cos it is really NOT REQUIRED!! For virtually all situations a 10x or maybe 12x max. magnification is all that is needed - the latter mentioned cos it is the hi of those many 3->12 x 50 available on the secondhand market.
Good Luck whatever you choose. Air rifle shooting is great fun and really is "cheap as chips" once the initial rifle and scope expense is covered.
ATB ..... and shoot safely
I believe an AirArms S410 would serve you well as they are not that expensive to start with, and though pretty basic as far as really up to date PCPs are concerned (like say the Daystate range) they give excellent service imho...
Don't need a high level scope either cos the ranges are so short, which is another saver. DON'T be trapped into buying a high spec' scope cos it is really NOT REQUIRED!! For virtually all situations a 10x or maybe 12x max. magnification is all that is needed - the latter mentioned cos it is the hi of those many 3->12 x 50 available on the secondhand market.
Good Luck whatever you choose. Air rifle shooting is great fun and really is "cheap as chips" once the initial rifle and scope expense is covered.
ATB ..... and shoot safely
Check out the air arms 410 I have in the classified
enfieldspares
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Ratting? Get a .22 in my opinion. Why? Because I've always believed in shooting rats through the front shoulders as it not only of course kills them dead but it is a bigger target than a between the eyes or down the earhole shot. The videos on You Tube may look good but remember that you get more shots out of an unregulated .22 than you do out of an unregulated .177.
Having said that I sold my unregulated .22 BSA Scorpion T-10 and kept my regulated (by Phil Crampton at Ratworks) .177 BSA Scorpion T-10 as I would now shoot mostly pigeons or squirrels and feel that a .177 handles a need for use on BOTH feather and fur better than a .22 handles a need for use on BOTH feather and fur. But if rats and rats only I'd always opt for a .22 PCP over a .177 PCP.
Avoid the old "hokey cokey" push in pull out BSA Ultra or Hornet. I had one and it was accurate but eventually (usually after having been distracted or a "senior moment" you'll forget what you pushed and what you've not pulled and then pushed and you'll have a bother and damn moment. The other huge benefit of most of the BSA series is a plastic stock. Easy clean and blood and weatherproof!
Having said that I sold my unregulated .22 BSA Scorpion T-10 and kept my regulated (by Phil Crampton at Ratworks) .177 BSA Scorpion T-10 as I would now shoot mostly pigeons or squirrels and feel that a .177 handles a need for use on BOTH feather and fur better than a .22 handles a need for use on BOTH feather and fur. But if rats and rats only I'd always opt for a .22 PCP over a .177 PCP.
Avoid the old "hokey cokey" push in pull out BSA Ultra or Hornet. I had one and it was accurate but eventually (usually after having been distracted or a "senior moment" you'll forget what you pushed and what you've not pulled and then pushed and you'll have a bother and damn moment. The other huge benefit of most of the BSA series is a plastic stock. Easy clean and blood and weatherproof!
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enfieldspares
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Also regarding the fashion or fad for "on gun" pressure indicating dials. I don't have one on my Scorpion T-10 and feel that the gun (it wasn't made with such an indicator dial) is better off without one. I don't use the gauge to let me know how much usable air I have left. I simply count how many magazines I've fired. And then recharge the air.
Dollydip
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i have an fx t12 in .22 great rifle not too expensive second hand well built shoots well downside is loading the magazine ( not a quick process) but once you get used to it its not too bad and just bought a sh hw100 in .177 great rifle not a great shot count but probably enough for a cpl hrs out and about .youtube has some good reviews and some very reasonable rifles out there gamo , walther , try big dans airgun reviews and air gun gear show ,hope that helps
MW73
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Most of the reviews from the boys on my airgun forum are negative.
Stick with AA or Weihrauch if that's your budget, you'll get a half decent scope if you look around for a package, join the forum I'm on as there are loads of good deals.
I've spent thousands on pcp rifles (Steyr's, Ripley's, Daystates etc) so have been through the pitfalls, with AA and Weihrauch you're pretty much OK and it's not too expensive if anything needs replacing.
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