Sold: Price drop for remaining female Shikoku inu puppies -£1900 (1st uk litter)

T.eddie

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Luna our female was due to be spayed and the vet advised they couldn't as it looked like she was going into season, a few days later my daughter let Major out before we were able to get a nappy on her and long and short of it she is now pregnant (much to the dismay of the Mrs). We've had her scanned today to confirm and the vet has advised at least 3 pups (though likely more, but they didn't scan the full length of her as would require shaving some fur off), making this, as far as we can tell, the first UK litter of shikoku.

Major I've worked (deer tracking and bird flushing, as well as ratting), i trained him to retrieve when young but he's a bit hard mouthed and was clearly bored by it, I wasn't overly fussed with him doing it so we stopped.

Luna hasn't worked bur shows all the right signs.

For background on the breed, they are a very uncommon Japanese hunting breed, originally from the mountains of shikoku and used by ancient Japanese Hunters to track and then bay deer and boar. They remained largely unchanged due to the rarity of the breed and are said to be the most primitive of the 6 key Japanese breeds (akita, shiba etc).

It is worth pointing out these are Hunters as opposed to gun dogs, however they are very intelligent, great family dogs and in my opinion, absolutely beautiful. They are fiercely loyal and don't tolerate other dogs bad manners, being quick to let their feelings be know (grumbles, growls, barks, posturing)

I'd very much prefer these to end up inna working home due to the drive and heritage of the dogs, they do however also have a number of show champions in their lines dating back to around the 80s.

At this stage I'm just trying to find people who would be interested in a puppy so that the relevant questions etc can be asked and a short list formed. These won't go to just anyone and it is very likely some form of contract will be in place to prevent further breeding in order to protect the lines, so if that's not for you then neither are the pups.

Drop me a message for more info or if interested. Price hasn't been set yet as we are evaluating it, they're due in c.16days or so all being well.

Major:
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Luna:
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Both:
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Unfortunately one pup had to be put down, the umbilical cord was ripped to close to the abdomen. Without going into to much detail, the pups had very little chance of survival especially once feeding more. Not a decision we took lightly but we felt the right one. The remaining 4 pups seem to be doing well according to the vets so hoping for the best
 
Good luck with the litter, I love seeing different breeds working.
Thank you, the 4 pups are putting on some good weight and size. Hoping at least a couple end up working as they are a bit more know for that in the states but as far as I know Major is the only one to work in then UK so far
 
Good luck with the pups, be nice if they all went to working homes.
Just out of interest do you think their coats will remain dark as they grow?

WB
 
Good luck with the pups, be nice if they all went to working homes.
Just out of interest do you think their coats will remain dark as they grow?

WB
Thank you, i think they will be dark, there's one that is a bit lighter than Major but darker than Luna and the rest are similar to Major with one being darker currently. Both Major and Luna got a little darker once the puppy fur disappeared but not drastically
 
Interesting litter and good luck with the sale. I always think that the hardest part in breeding a litter is finding the right homes. If you put the work in, this is usually done well before the pups are born and ideally before the bitch is mated.

For such a new breed to the UK I would do all that you can to put these pups into the best hands. Working homes sound ideal but I wouldn't discount what I would call an 'active' pet home.

Also, people might ask what makes the pups 'outstanding'? Pups change one helluva lot in the first year, let alone the first few weeks. Responsible 'would-be' owners should be asking that question.
 
Interesting litter and good luck with the sale. I always think that the hardest part in breeding a litter is finding the right homes. If you put the work in, this is usually done well before the pups are born and ideally before the bitch is mated.

For such a new breed to the UK I would do all that you can to put these pups into the best hands. Working homes sound ideal but I wouldn't discount what I would call an 'active' pet home.

Also, people might ask what makes the pups 'outstanding'? Pups change one helluva lot in the first year, let alone the first few weeks. Responsible 'would-be' owners should be asking that question.
I completely agree, the litter wasn't planned and when we went to the vets on 2nd of Dec as advised by them to check they said it didn't seem like she was pregnant but that a scan at that date wouldn't be able to help and that we had to wait a few more weeks. Unfortunately that only gave us a week or so once we had confirmation to start the process of trying to find homes.

We are also looking at active homes if working homes aren't available and would consider keeping the pups if we can't find the right homes.

They are outstanding due to the lines within the pups, there are a number of show dog champions from both lines dating back as far as we can get the pedigrees which is around the 80s and spread far and wide across the world

Major has had some of his videos featured on the animal watch YouTube channel and the lady who runs it has also said she may want to come and film the pups at some point as they are the 1st litter here so hoping that will increase exposure for them and the breed to find some more perfect homes.

The interested people so far we have asked and lot of questions about them, what they do, their access to green spaces and experience with dogs as well as what training / understanding of training they can have. We have had questions about our dogs, how they are with kids, other dogs, prey drive, stubbornness etc and will be doing all the checks we can to prevent these ending up in the wrong places, thank you for the thoughts though it all helps
 
I completely agree, the litter wasn't planned and when we went to the vets on 2nd of Dec as advised by them to check they said it didn't seem like she was pregnant but that a scan at that date wouldn't be able to help and that we had to wait a few more weeks. Unfortunately that only gave us a week or so once we had confirmation to start the process of trying to find homes.

We are also looking at active homes if working homes aren't available and would consider keeping the pups if we can't find the right homes.

They are outstanding due to the lines within the pups, there are a number of show dog champions from both lines dating back as far as we can get the pedigrees which is around the 80s and spread far and wide across the world

Major has had some of his videos featured on the animal watch YouTube channel and the lady who runs it has also said she may want to come and film the pups at some point as they are the 1st litter here so hoping that will increase exposure for them and the breed to find some more perfect homes.

The interested people so far we have asked and lot of questions about them, what they do, their access to green spaces and experience with dogs as well as what training / understanding of training they can have. We have had questions about our dogs, how they are with kids, other dogs, prey drive, stubbornness etc and will be doing all the checks we can to prevent these ending up in the wrong places, thank you for the thoughts though it all helps
Looks like you are doing all the right things. The future of the breed in the UK is - quite literally - in your hands. Just to add.......don't be in a hurry picking homes and also, if it looks like you might be left with one for a while, try to make arrangements with one of the owners to keep one of the 'sold' pups back until the final one is sold. It is much easier looking after a pair of 9, 10, 11 etc week old pups than it is just one on it's own. Best of luck
 
Looks like you are doing all the right things. The future of the breed in the UK is - quite literally - in your hands. Just to add.......don't be in a hurry picking homes and also, if it looks like you might be left with one for a while, try to make arrangements with one of the owners to keep one of the 'sold' pups back until the final one is sold. It is much easier looking after a pair of 9, 10, 11 etc week old pups than it is just one on it's own. Best of luck
Thank you, yeah it really is something we aren't taking lightly. If we are left with one that will become one of ours in all honesty as we always said we would have another one at some point, this just accelerated it if one is left
 
Now pups are being more active, awake and showing character we are going to try and update the photos. They are feeling handled by us regularly as well as by the kids (under strict supervision) to build people tolerance. We are working on putting random items in with them so they grow confident in exploring things that are unfamiliar, smell or feel different

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Male - brown collar

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Female- pink collar

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Female - orange collar
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Male - blue collar Reserved

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We also spoke with the Kennel club with regards to getting the breed recognised here as well as the litter registered. Short answer was, it wasn't possible as the UK doesn't have enough information about the breed and it would take several years, so unfortunately these will remain non KC registered but will have full pedigree
 
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