Re-evaluation of personal values and priorities.

We as a young family re-evaluated our lifestyle, most difficult decision was where to live, sold the business and property, bought a property, loaded a self drive hire van and moved, no work to go to for both myself and my good lady, our goal to live a better more complete life for us and our children, a dream you could say.
Thirty five years later we’re still here living that dream which has never diminished and never ever regretted one second of it.

For us as a family money or title is not our master, if you have a dream and it’s possible do it you only live once.

If it’s muppets you are intending to escape........there are muppets everywhere !!

And this is for “riddick”........yes we did return the VAN.
 
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We as a young family re-evaluated our lifestyle, most difficult decision was where to live, sold the business and property, bought a property, loaded a self drive hire van and moved, no work to go to for both myself and my good lady, our goal to live a better more complete life for us and our children, a dream you could say.
Thirty five years later we’re still here living that dream which has never diminished and never ever regretted one second of it.

For us as a family money or title is not our master, if you have a dream and it’s possible do it you only live once.

If it’s muppets you are intending to escape........there are muppets everywhere !!

"Isn't it about time you gave the van back?"
 
Maybe time for you to make some changes too, Iain? I think that your good lady has a hankering for a little farm somewhere.
As for me, I won't be changing my lifestyle as such, just shedding a few of the unnecessary aspects and concentrating on the things I've always valued most highly.
Tim,
Turning the clock back 20 years might not seem so appealing if and when this period is over!
Will be very nice if you can do it, but for lots of us there was no option but to work all the hours there were just to try and better yourself and give your family a reasonable standard of living.
And if you were an employee it didn’t matter how long you toiled, only your gaffer’s business improved, you just got a few more quid at the end of the week.

Being a farmer there is much scope to develop and grow depending on how much graft you are prepared to put in.
The more you work, the more you grow and the more stress you (Can) get.

I was made redundant in ‘87 and started my own business. Bought a 20K building with 5K cash and a 15K home improvement loan. (Good loan as it had tax relief).
Worked 14 hour day on my own for first year and the employed a worker the year after.
We bought a new machine one year and the company delivered it and commissioned it on the day we closed for Christmas. Came back after Christmas to no jobs in the pipeline (Small recession) until Easter. That nearly finished me, but with wifey working (As well as looking after 3 or 4 kids) we kept open.
My (And Wifey’s) idea was to eventually buy a small holding and try being as near self sufficient as we could.
Staff varied but never more than 5 and me and I was always hands on because I enjoyed my job, but also thought that any work I did myself, didn’t cost me anything.
In the end it didn’t work out because I got COPD through the job and had to retire. Lucky for me I did as once in clean air the COPD didn’t get any worse.(Had visions of going round with an oxy bottle on my back).
We didn’t believe in paying into pension schemes, but did manage to pay off the workshop loan and get a small portfolio of houses. (4 kids & 4 houses, their inheritance sorted).
That’s why I kept trying to do better, so my kids (All grown up long ago) will have something extra to look forward to when we’ve gone.
77 now, got a gun, titchy car and motorbike (And the same Wifey) and don’t need anything else. Still can’t eat any more than I used to.
About 15 years ago (After i’d Retired) a fast food chain approach us wanting to buy our workshop, Talk of 250k for something we paid 20 for. One of our kids uses the workshop so we turned the offer down. It wouldn’t have happened anyway.
As things turned out, at the time the bottom fell out the housing market and the fast food chain decided to revamp their existing restaurants instead of opening more. All those years on and there’s still not a Micky’s in our town.

If I had to go back, I’d still do the same again because it’s all I know.
I do envy your lifestyle Tim, but not everyone is in a position to have that lifestyle even if they wanted.

Will probably be great for your health to step back and take things easier, mental as well as physical.
Good luck to you.
Ken.
Ps. Just finished reading a book. ‘The Worst Hard Time’.
It’s about what happened on the Great Plains in America when the Farmers And Cattlemen move in (1901) after the Buffs. and Indians got “Moved”. Unbelievable what nature did and also how the greed and success of the Farmers was their downfall.
Let me know if you want it. Ken.
 
Sounds like our lives have run on parallel tracks, but we have been going in opposite direction's. I had a great childhood in many ways, without there being much money in the home. Simple things occupied us and on the whole we wanted for nothing. Just as well as we couldn't afford it!
However that lack of money must have subconsciously lodged in my mind and as a teenager I decided I wanted some. I started mowing lawns in our street for a few pounds here and there. By the end of the summer I had 10 customers. The following year with some hand written leaflets delivered around the village I had 20 lawns to me and had to take on a mate to help. I still had to go to school. Year 3 saw me earning more than my uncle and I had to pay board at 13 years old. I've never stopped working since then. With that simple start I bought 5 acres of land. Had some goats,sheep,pigs. Chickens etc which along with my girlfriend/fiancee now wife we lived "the good life". Initially on a narrow boat, then in a little wooden house I built one summer. The plan was to live a simple life, enjoy living where we do and raise a family. Money came enough to live and do things a bit at a time. Then I reached a point where I wanted kids to share this life with and compete the picture for me. I guess this is where it all changed. My partner didn't want kids, said we needed a better house, more money, and to be married. So I cracked on earner more money, built a marina and a business where I could work from home and be a big part of any children's upbringing and after all that still no kids. So I've never built the house, couldn't see the point. Separated from my wife, which was a hard thing to do. We still remain close and at present are confined to barracks as she lives on a boat here. I just plowed into more work. It's easy and I know what I'm doing. Now 43 and wondering what I should do with the opportunity I have to change lines and go somewhere new. I'm edging towards that simple life I enjoyed in the past.
What this thread does show is there's an awful lot of people who find themselves in a similar predicament. I wonder why that is? I think society has changed too much and moved away from some core principals and ways in the pursuit of wealth and growth. We live in a country where billions are spent every year on shite we don't need but have because it apparantly make's life better. I have a load of this shite myself. Perhaps this pandemic will either force or encourage us to change what we perceive as important and return to happier time's. Where people have time to help one another, help old Mrs Smith cross the road or carry her shopping. Do a days work for a mate without him trying to pay you. I doubt this will happen enmass as there are some people who rely on the current system continuing. The stock market is unlikely to start trading in favors or surplus sheep and so many do not have the good fortune to have space to provide for themselves, but we could rebalanced our economy so it doesn't rely on 2 full time incomes just to stay afloat.
With how you worded that and only being 43 why not consider an adoption. I did it very late in life as she was my partners daughter that gives me a nice feeling to know there is a continuation. Plus the state will not get all of it.
 
With how you worded that and only being 43 why not consider an adoption. I did it very late in life as she was my partners daughter that gives me a nice feeling to know there is a continuation. Plus the state will not get all of it.
Continuation is one of the reasons I feel so strongly about. Not having children either of my own genetics or people who become as important to me as any other has raised some real soul searching for me. It has made me question my whole purpose. Unfortunately I discounted adoption as I questioned whether I could take that person on, fulfil their needs and more importantly be the person to provide them unconditional love and support. I questioned whether I could be as good a parent to them as I would be to my own flesh and blood. This stems from my own experience of being adopted. Apart from that my wife didn't want to adopt, for all the same reasons of not wanting to bear children herself. It's taken me over 10 years to find the courage to realise we need to follow different paths and separate. Now I would be more than happy to find a partner who shares my views and dreams, who may have their own children already. So long as they were willing to give me a chance of winning their hearts, having "my own" my not be so important.
Now the hard bit. Finding the right partner in this world of Internet dating, false profiles,scams and outright lies. Still onward we must go.
Thanks for the interest.
 
Its time, time to reflect, time to think of what ifs, time to hope, time to make new plans
As I said in a previous post I was given this time or you could say I had this time enforced on me. I was off the hamster wheel unable to do much at all. And things had to change

Now so many people have so much TIME unexpectedly thrust on them to do as I did and think as they are off the hamster wheel.
Now when the world reboots and it will, will we come out different with different drivers and priorities
You know what TIME will tell
NH
 
Continuation is one of the reasons I feel so strongly about. Not having children either of my own genetics or people who become as important to me as any other has raised some real soul searching for me. It has made me question my whole purpose. Unfortunately I discounted adoption as I questioned whether I could take that person on, fulfil their needs and more importantly be the person to provide them unconditional love and support. I questioned whether I could be as good a parent to them as I would be to my own flesh and blood. This stems from my own experience of being adopted. Apart from that my wife didn't want to adopt, for all the same reasons of not wanting to bear children herself. It's taken me over 10 years to find the courage to realise we need to follow different paths and separate. Now I would be more than happy to find a partner who shares my views and dreams, who may have their own children already. So long as they were willing to give me a chance of winning their hearts, having "my own" my not be so important.
Now the hard bit. Finding the right partner in this world of Internet dating, false profiles,scams and outright lies. Still onward we must go.
Thanks for the interest.
feck,,, that was from the heart,, good luck in your quest sir. :thumb:
 
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