Reduced 45-70 load

[Reloader708]

Anyone got a combination they have had success with (reduced 45-70 loads) obviously the usual candidates like traiboss etc are not available so viht is the most easly obtained.
Ive a pile of 350 grain hard casts but information is sketchy.
Id imagine theres going to have to be some filler to take a bit of space up, im not fancying anything messy like cream of wheat.
Im just after somewhere to start researching and a first hand experience is as good as anywhere.
Its going through a modern marlin.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Smellydog]

What kind of performance are you after?

 

[moeggesit]

Black powder makes is a nice reduced load. Put as much in as you like and fill the space up with semolina. Keep adjusting until it does wat you want it to.

 

[tackb]

An older lyman manual is what you need ! 1

 

[Reloader708]

What kind of performance are you after?

It doesn't matter particularly, just something safe and economical.

 

[Reloader708]

Black powder makes is a nice reduced load. Put as much in as you like and fill the space up with semolina. Keep adjusting until it does wat you want it to.

Ive tried black power but its horrendously dirty. A reduced nitro would be easier.
I know youve to be carful to avoid air space in the case too.

 

[moeggesit]

An older lyman manual is what you need ! 1

All the newer Lyman manuals cover reduced loads too and Lyman’s Cast Bullet Handbook deals with it exclusively.

 

[Andy RV]

10gr of Unique or Red Dot, no filler required.

 

[Reloader708]

10gr of Unique or Red Dot, no filler required.

Simple as that?
Thats what im after. Ill have to see who, in my neck of the woods stocks it.
Sw scotland.

 

[Andy RV]

Simple as that, good luck finding the powder, I’m struggling.

 

[Reloader708]

Simple as that, good luck finding the powder, I’m struggling.

Ah, always a catch!

 

[reiver]

19- 20 gr 2400 works well for light loads in a .444M and in the 45-70

 

[Smellydog]

19- 20 gr 2400 works well for light loads in a .444M and in the 45-70

Was just going to suggest 2400 and as already suggested, any of the alliant shotgun powders. Red dot, green dot, herco and unique.
The only thing one will need is a method to avoid double dosing a case.

I put the primed cases upside down. Put the funnel upside down and only an upside down case is selected and placed in the upside down funnel then it's turned only to be charged. Two trays helps.
It just helps to not double dose, which could be very interesting with these fast powders!

 

[Reloader708]

Was just going to suggest 2400 and as already suggested, any of the alliant shotgun powders. Red dot, green dot, herco and unique.
The only thing one will need is a method to avoid double dosing a case.

I put the primed cases upside down. Put the funnel upside down and only an upside down case is selected and placed in the upside down funnel then it's turned only to be charged. Two trays helps.
It just helps to not double dose, which could be very interesting with these fast powders!

Similar weight for all these powders (Assuming i can find any) 10-12g....and no filler?
.

 

[Reloader708]

Was just going to suggest 2400 and as already suggested, any of the alliant shotgun powders. Red dot, green dot, herco and unique.
The only thing one will need is a method to avoid double dosing a case.

I put the primed cases upside down. Put the funnel upside down and only an upside down case is selected and placed in the upside down funnel then it's turned only to be charged. Two trays helps.
It just helps to not double dose, which could be very interesting with these fast powders!

A quick check shows viht N320 being almost identical to red dot and perhaps more easily available??

 

[Smellydog]

Similar weight for all these powders (Assuming i can find any) 10-12g....and no filler?
.

I use 7.5 gn unique in 3030. That is super sonic with light bullets, subsonic with heavy.

With the larger case of 4570 I'd be looking around 12gn to start with lead.

UNIQUE powder for 45-70 target loads?

Good morning all. I recently bought a 47-70 BC and a 38-55 Target Rifle. In an attempt to make a poor man’s Schuetzen rifle, I mounted a full length Malcolm scope on the BC and am anxious to get to the bench to see what it will do. I have been reloading for nearly 35 years with some 45-70...

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[25 Sharps]

Anyone got a combination they have had success with (reduced 45-70 loads) obviously the usual candidates like traiboss etc are not available so viht is the most easly obtained.
Ive a pile of 350 grain hard casts but information is sketchy.
Id imagine theres going to have to be some filler to take a bit of space up, im not fancying anything messy like cream of wheat.
Im just after somewhere to start researching and a first hand experience is as good as anywhere.
Its going through a modern marlin.
Thanks in advance.

I use 7.5 gn unique in 3030. That is super sonic with light bullets, subsonic with heavy.

With the larger case of 4570 I'd be looking around 12gn to start with lead.

UNIQUE powder for 45-70 target loads?

Good morning all. I recently bought a 47-70 BC and a 38-55 Target Rifle. In an attempt to make a poor man’s Schuetzen rifle, I mounted a full length Malcolm scope on the BC and am anxious to get to the bench to see what it will do. I have been reloading for nearly 35 years with some 45-70...

www.go2gbo.com

The trouble with unique is it also now pretty much unobtainable.

 

[markyw]

I think RS14 is the new goto "fluffy" powder now that Trailboss and NC32 (Tin Star) are unobtainium.

It's not quite Trailboss fill to 70% and you cannot go wrong, but much bulkier than other powders.

Regards

Mark

 

[Tarquin]

As said just about any shotgun/pistol powder will achieve it. No fillers required. I usually put a thin felt wad to pack the powder against the flash hole. Seem to get a better SD.
This has all you need to know: Lever Gun Performance Studies

 

[Smellydog]

But avoid, if found h110, hs6, any fast spherical.

N110 might work.