Regional Poaching interested vehicles

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Dear members, we have just received notification from the Cotswold Rural Environmental Crime Liaison Officer regarding vehicles being used in poaching, coursing and other rural crimes. Please keep your eye's open and if you see any supisious behaviour contact the police.

New for 2017

LK51 NVA Jeep Cherokee, blue
CX02 DFE, Light blue Peugeot 206 estate, hare coursing.
MF57 YZX, A white Ford Transit Connect (small van) poaching and farm thefts.
X854 NBT, A Green Subaru Forrester (poaching)
N39 YKK A dark red Suzuki Vitara with a white passenger door and green passenger wing. ( possible poaching and farm thefts)
N414 ??? Blue Subaru Legacy, possible with a red old style Subaru pick-up.
H104 PEF Grey Mitsubishi Shogun, general nuisance / crime.
R55 BGL Black and Beige Mitsubishi Shogun, general nuisance / crime.
YT53 TLY Black Vauxhall Frontera , general nuisance / crime.

2016

Top Priority- Red Vauxhall Frontera L62 TWP
Grey Vauxhall Astra DK53 WYD. Both related to Land Rover Thefts. Organised crime gang (OCG) from Cleeve area.

??????? Blue Mercedes ML hare coursing. (registration index needed)
HD03 BVN Blue discovery coursing
L347 KHN Ramming farm gates, burglaries and very active in deer coursing
AD53 LDY Pale metallic blue Audi A3 estate, believed to be involved in high value crimes.
KV55 TFU White Transit panel van ( ***** during a shoot day, occupants of the van were looking in to vehicles belonging to the guns. Thought to be looking for shotguns in the vehicles**** )
R??? MUW burgundy Hyundai Santa Fe. (hare coursing)
05KE-169Y (Irish registered) Silver Toyota Rav 4. (hare coursing)
WS52 ZUA Silver Subaru Forrester (hare coursing)
WG05 NNH Silver Freelander (fish poaching)
T778 NAM Blue Honda CRV (hare coursing)
SV04 VRR White Mitsubishi Shogun (hare coursing)
Y921 YAT Red and silver Subaru (hare coursing)
??? ??? Silver Saab 95 estate ( cigarette burglary at Petrol station)
RO13 LKE Looking at houses
N26 NCW vehicle to be confirmed
WL13 KXV White L200 (hare coursing)
GV56 ZPT Silver Belingo van ( in tandem with the below Freelander)
Y4 JPL Black Freelander SUSPECT FARM THEFTS (very active and potentially hostile)
SV04 VRR White Shogun SWB hare coursing
WF57 JDO Subaru hare coursing

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Hi,

This is very interesting. I take my daughters out to see wildlife - owls and deer in particular, all over the Cotswolds, often at deer o'clock - last light. We can be driving quite slowly, on quiet lanes and looking at wildlife through binoculars - looks like I'll have to be careful!

That said, I would report, in a heartbeat, any suspicious vehicles and definitely any hare coursing or preparations.
 
If they've got the reg numbers, surely the police should be talking to the registered owners. Or am I missing something?

Novice
 
novice said:
If they've got the reg numbers, surely the police should be talking to the registered owners. Or am I missing something?
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Depends on what evidence exists that they have been up to no good.
Knowing the vehicles being used, should mean that it is easier to put together a fuller picture of their activities, to then have a chat with consequences.
 
Dare I ask but is there not a data protection issue with this if the link between the reg number and the alleged crime can't be proved? Surely that's not right? As above by tarponhead there could be totally innocent details above which in the wrong hands could be misused?
 
deerstalker.308 said:
Dare I ask but is there not a data protection issue with this if the link between the reg number and the alleged crime can't be proved? Surely that's not right? As above by tarponhead there could be totally innocent details above which in the wrong hands could be misused?
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Don't think there's any data protection issue for number plates. They are displayed front and rear for identification purposes for all to see. Records of owners is different though. The cops calling around to see them is possibly a good idea. Not sure it would do much except to let them know their vehicle is known though and these days I can't see many police areas sending patrols around to see people who potentially haven't done anything except perhaps a bit of country lane courting.
 
One issue with sending the police to chat to the owners is that they then know that the police know and they will either swap cars or just the plates so it's now harder to track them. Sometimes it's better to not let people know you're watching them and they're a lot easier to keep tabs on. Of course if you haven't actually got the time or resources to monitor them then maybe having a word will be all you can do to try and put them off.
 
nun_hunter said:
One issue with sending the police to chat to the owners is that they then know that the police know and they will either swap cars or just the plates so it's now harder to track them. Sometimes it's better to not let people know you're watching them and they're a lot easier to keep tabs on. Of course if you haven't actually got the time or resources to monitor them then maybe having a word will be all you can do to try and put them off.
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So, posting this info on a public website, good idea?
 
Yeah the more decent folk who know and spot something odd may then report it if they're aware there is intel that vehicle is likely up to no good.
 
And people wonder why there are very few hare round my neck of the woods. All the local farmers shoot them and deer get hard hit too. Basically, it seems that the rural community have got sick and tired of having their land trashed, poachers and being threatened with violence. Its a real shame because the ones that loose out are the local inhabitants and the wildlife.
 
Personally I think this may have been a blunder as information and anonymity gave power to the authorities?
Just like shouting out to encourage a deer to stay for the shot?
Just an easy way of trying to look reactive and effective to the masses?

Now, change to dodgy number plates and carry on?

There must have been enough evidence to put them on a list?
So if reasonably suspected, what would have been wrong with the Police doorstepping them and waving a finger? :doh: If they are in?
 
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novice said:
If they've got the reg numbers, surely the police should be talking to the registered owners. Or am I missing something?

Novice
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Surely ANPR cameras would solve that problem pretty sharpish too if they were trying to track them?
 
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