RSPB who does their shooting Mr Packham

[Rum Baba]

'Really, the RSPB are one of the least hostile popular conservation groups with regards to animal management.'

+ 1 I've always found the reserve wardens a good bunch and haven't had one who didn't explain thier

wildlife management plan to the general public when asked.

 

[Orion]

'Really, the RSPB are one of the least hostile popular conservation groups with regards to animal management.'

+ 1 I've always found the reserve wardens a good bunch and haven't had one who didn't explain thier

wildlife management plan to the general public when asked.

That may be the case with some of the foot soldiers but the upper echelons of command, including their anti-shooting Vice President, are not as honest - hypocritical might be an apt description at the very least.

 

[Tazz]

If you put in to Google “RSPB killing animals” it will bring up the guy who has the detail it was fro his I cut and pasted just the headline facts

Regards Tazz

 

[old keeper]

The RSPB bought some very valuable coastland where I controlled the vermin for over 50 years. The reason for the purchase was to carry out a cirl bunting project. I approached the local director and asked if it was OK to carry on controlling Foxes, magpies, crows and squirrels, none of them particularly conducive to any projects to increase songbirds. I was told no, a few years later I bumped into the same person and asked again, saying since they took over the fox population locally has gone through the roof, likewise all other vermin.
Rather confusingly I was told that the project was progressing satisfactorily so there was no need to control the vermin. When I asked how much more successful the project would have been without all the vermin I didn't really get a coherent answer!

 

[SDM]

Lets keep bleating on about how bad RSPB are we may as well kick ourselves in the gonads same as other on going threads Wild Justice will look at some of the threads not just here but on other forums and think well this is going to be EASY
RSPB realise predator control is essential to protect certain species embrace it don't knock it we are as shooting community we are a minority and we need these ORGS on our side

 

[alan]

Hi
Up till a few years ago a friend of mine worked as a contractor for the RSPB controlling any corvids or gulls on the Ythan estuary in Aberdeenshire. He was paid (if I remember correctly) £12 per hour. He worked while the Terns and Eider ducks were nesting and raising chicks. His work schedule was from first light till 10 in the morning so he'd be off the ground when the twitchers turned up. The RSPB supplied him with a suppressed 12 bore single barrel shotgun, (only one I've ever seen). Always looked like he was swinging a scaffolding tube. One year one of his hides went missing, a couple of weeks later it turned up in Kent.....
The guy who nicked it was taken to court and fined.
My friend has since retired but I would think the duck and tern protection still goes on.

regards
Alan

 

[countrryboy]

Old keeper unfortunately that sort of thinking is now the norm for most 'conservationists'.
But they know best as they have an 'ology' and ur 50 plus years on the same ground ( never mind the knowledge and experienced u probably gained from who ever taught u) counts for nothing.
Sadly that is also wot they teach at uni's and have done for years so it will only get worse

I know an ex grouse keeper who's moor was bought by them, recently countryfile where there crowing about seeing 1 blackcock in the distance.
He recognise the place and said it used to be crawling with ' cock' when it was a grouse moor as well as many other ground nesting birds.

I really hope GWCT are carrying out bird censuses at both Langholm and Ilkley moors where shooting has recently stopped. Be interesting to see how the numbers decline

 

[countrryboy]

Lets keep bleating on about how bad RSPB are we may as well kick ourselves in the gonads same as other on going threads Wild Justice will look at some of the threads not just here but on other forums and think well this is going to be EASY
RSPB realise predator control is essential to protect certain species embrace it don't knock it we are as shooting community we are a minority and we need these ORGS on our side

Sadly it will never ever happen. They will never say a good word about shooting against all the top brass/politicos stand for, or packham.
They have changed completely from wot they once were. Very sad

Look at all the evidence, the amount off times they have been involved with things and they're only concern is kicking us in the baws themselves.


I've said plenty off decent workers at ground level and we probably have 80 or 90% in common with many of there knowledgeable supporters, just the 1 pont many will never ever agree on is killing + a side portion of class hatred for the numpties/extremeists

 

[25 Sharps]

Lets keep bleating on about how bad RSPB are we may as well kick ourselves in the gonads same as other on going threads Wild Justice will look at some of the threads not just here but on other forums and think well this is going to be EASY
RSPB realise predator control is essential to protect certain species embrace it don't knock it we are as shooting community we are a minority and we need these ORGS on our side

Again, you realise Chris Packham is their Vice President don’t you?

You know the chap that wants to ban all driven shooting and regulate mammals shooting ? Hang on let me just find the appropriate smiley

 

[liongeorge]

Check this out.... Home - You Forgot The Birds

 

[Tazz]

I have been on the website referenced by Liongeorge before I started this thread, it does show how inefficient the RSPB are when they attempt specific species friendly areas to drive up numbers

 

[jer]

Check this out.... Home - You Forgot The Birds

Astonishing that the RSPB have not published figures on breeding success recently, they obviously want to keep something quiet and possibly even worse results than before. Wouldn't it be brilliant to see You forgot the birds and the RSPB in a television interview arguing the figures and reasons why the RSPB do so poorly, perhaps we will see it on countryfile one day I really do despair at some of the posts on here defending them, not having a go at the individuals posting but they really should look past the bull shine that RSPB put out, perhaps that link to YFTB will open a few eyes. I have long said that the Red Kite revival is an artificial situation that cannot continue, how can anyone say that the birds are wild when they rely heavily on feeding stations, nice birds to see but they are essentially mini vultures who historically rely mostly on carrion and that is in very short supply in the UK since the requirement to remove fallen stock. If you drive through mid Wales you will see a LOT of them.

 

[whitehackle]

I think its very short sited to think that the rspb are ok because they are ok with deer stalking. While chris packham has a platform, provided to him by the bbc and the rspb, he is a big threat to all of the shooting community. And seems to be obsessed with banning country sports. He talks about conservation, but his agenda is anti shooting. Dont forget that he is one of the people pulling the strings at the rspb.

 

[25 Sharps]

I think its very short sited to think that the rspb are ok because they are ok with deer stalking. While chris packham has a platform, provided to him by the bbc and the rspb, he is a big threat to all of the shooting community. And seems to be obsessed with banning country sports. He talks about conservation, but his agenda is anti shooting. Dont forget that he is one of the people pulling the strings at the rspb.

Anybody who thinks that the RSPB are 'okay with shooting' is quite frankly a blinkered fool who doesn't look at shooting sports as a whole just their own tiny little bit of it! They are wholeheartedly trying to get grouse shooting banned and are against driven shooting and the gamekeepers it requires generally. They are outspokenly anti shooting!

 

[whitehackle]

Grouse shooting is very much 1st on the list, but it will not stop there. Once they have 1 victory, it will give them strength to carry on and ban more. Everyone should challenge anti shooting opinion at every given opportunity. It is the uneducated public that gives these anti organizations funding and a louder voice.

 

[Ade8mm]

Lets keep bleating on about how bad RSPB are we may as well kick ourselves in the gonads same as other on going threads Wild Justice will look at some of the threads not just here but on other forums and think well this is going to be EASY
RSPB realise predator control is essential to protect certain species embrace it don't knock it we are as shooting community we are a minority and we need these ORGS on our side

Quite agree but that does not and should not mean the hypocracy of messrs Packham and Avery should not be exposed surely?

 

[kes]

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy wherever its found - would it be ok for a politician to say I am for Brexit and then actively attempt to prevent it _ the answer is all over the papers.
Chris Packham as Vice-President of the RSPB is using them as he uses the BBC to increase his personal profile - I am not concerned with the RSPB controlling predators - they would be stupid not to, but C Packham needs to be exposed - Kate Humble is a farmer and whilst public profile is of great interest to her, she knows you cant farm without animals dying, domestic and wild. She is not hypocritical and she's the current President