Sako 85 ejection issue, dented case neck

My 85 in .270 dents the neck of the case almost every time. I don’t reload, the deer doesn’t realise that there is “an issue” and I really don’t give a fiddlers fart.
Regards,
DG

Per the vid in post #3, many who have this issue [myself included] have the case fail to eject which prevents any follow up shot. There can be a myriad reasons for wanting to cycle the rifle quickly.

What about poor first shot. What about doe and follower. What about dangerous game.

Failing to eject is a serious flaw.
 
I have a Sako 85 stainless laminate with an S&B PMII mounted. I love the rifle…. But it had to go back to GMK to have the extractor claw replaced from new - cases would keep falling back when ejecting. The replacement claw fixed the issue which GMK acknowledged was very common. The empty cases do now eject properly…. But the spent brass cases hit the windage turret of my scope every time. The black finish on the scope is wearing off where the cases ding the turret.

I regard this as irritating, but I can live with it. I mentioned the problem to GMK this summer as I was considering buying a new S20 and was given the following reason/tale/excuse: “The Sako 85 is an old design now and wasn’t engineered with modern scopes in mind. The ejection angle works fine for a 30mm tube scope with no bulky turret on the same side as the ejection port.” He went on to add that the S20 is a modern rifle and doesn’t suffer the same issues.

It does sound plausible. Whether it is true or not is a different matter. I did look at an S20, but wasn’t impressed by the stocks and mag well so didn’t buy one.

I have considered changing the scope, but it is perfect for my type of shooting. After all, the S&B is probably worth more than the Sako.

Just my experience - I can’t speak for others.
 
I have read somewhere (on 24hourcampfire.com maybe?) of a bloke in Queensland, Aus who machined his own extractor claw with much tighter tolerances. This held the case tighter against the bolt face and his issue was solved.

Cheers
 
I have read somewhere (on 24hourcampfire.com maybe?) of a bloke in Queensland, Aus who machined his own extractor claw with much tighter tolerances. This held the case tighter against the bolt face and his issue was solved.

Cheers

Love the 'Number 8 wire' mentality!
 
I have a Sako 85 stainless laminate with an S&B PMII mounted. I love the rifle…. But it had to go back to GMK to have the extractor claw replaced from new - cases would keep falling back when ejecting. The replacement claw fixed the issue which GMK acknowledged was very common. The empty cases do now eject properly…. But the spent brass cases hit the windage turret of my scope every time. The black finish on the scope is wearing off where the cases ding the turret.

I regard this as irritating, but I can live with it. I mentioned the problem to GMK this summer as I was considering buying a new S20 and was given the following reason/tale/excuse: “The Sako 85 is an old design now and wasn’t engineered with modern scopes in mind. The ejection angle works fine for a 30mm tube scope with no bulky turret on the same side as the ejection port.” He went on to add that the S20 is a modern rifle and doesn’t suffer the same issues.

It does sound plausible. Whether it is true or not is a different matter. I did look at an S20, but wasn’t impressed by the stocks and mag well so didn’t buy one.

I have considered changing the scope, but it is perfect for my type of shooting. After all, the S&B is probably worth more than the Sako.

Just my experience - I can’t speak for others.
My hunting partner had the same rifle in 30/06 ( different scope ) , with the same issue . His would drop the spent round back into the receiver and cause a jam , not good . He did get an after market extractor that did improve reliability , but it would still hang up every now and then . In the end , he rolled the scope and it's been trouble free ever since .
As to the 85 being an older design , I have to call BS , I've also heard the same lame excuse here . There are a lot of older designs that feed and extract reliably , all my 98 mauser based sporters for one . I have always liked Sako built rifles , but the 85 is known for having this issue in some rifles . The price for one here is always less than other Sako models because of it .

AB
 
Sako techs flat denied there was a known issue when I called their factory.

it does not always eject. That has serious implications for follow-up shots.

It is a design issue. Pure and simple. Case extractor ram is at the bottom [6 o'clock] position of the retreating bolt. Extractor claw sits near11 o'clock position. A near vertical ejection of the spent case is inevitable. Machining differences between calibres and production runs will exacerbate this design flaw, sometimes.

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I think this can be quite easily solved by buying a Tikka over a Sako.... different ends of the same factory floor.....

As much as I prefer three lugs over two, I also prefer ejection and follow up!
 
quite easily solved by buying a Tikka over a Sako

Agreed. But...my 30.06 85 is a sweet-handling, nicely-balanced, low-recoil tack-driver. So I am a bit attached to the thing.

For me, rotating the scope mount to work around this issue was no hardship. Now my windage turret is elevation, and windage duties are handled on the non-ejection side of the rifle.

Cases fly high and clear every time.

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Agreed. But...my 30.06 85 is a sweet-handling, nicely-balanced, low-recoil tack-driver. So I am a bit attached to the thing.

For me, rotating the scope mount to work around this issue was no hardship. Now my windage turret is elevation, and windage duties are handled on the non-ejection side of the rifle.

Cases fly high and clear every time.

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Thankfully you don't need side focus!
 
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