Scope mounted lamp

[evetseel]

I dont want to go down the night vision or thermal route. I enjoy the method of lamping and have no probs with success. Just wanted that out the way before everyone and his hound recommends that.

I’m looking for recommendation on scope mounted lamps. I want something that’s going to get me out to 200yds on foxes and rabbits.

 

[B.T.243.]

Wicked light. £250 but I don’t think you can get much better

 

[BLUEROLL]

I use a Nightmaster 800 with a red LED and it will give you 200 yds, assuming good atmospheric conditions.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

Have a look at the Sirius stuff from Ian Sirrel.
gets plenty of very good reviews and will easily do what you want for a lot less than the Wicked Light.

 

[paul o']

T67 ?

 

[Erik Hamburger]

Nightmaster 800 red or green LED. The red one seems to reach much further than the green one, but that may be my eyes rather than a general thing.
Buy the standard one, not with the button that reduces/increases intensity, as I find that on the lower power settings it often turns off by itself at the moment you don't want it to.
Get the best scope/torch mount you can find as there are many cheap, nasty systems on the market that will not work and fall apart quickly. This is my choice, after experience with many bad products that ended up in the bin: Fully Adjustable Rail Mount with Windage and Elevation Adjustment
You'll also need a scope-mounted rail, such as this one: Scope Ring with Rail for Adding a Rail to Your Rifle Scope

 

[Dan Newcombe]

Torch factory EVO is pretty good. You can get the kit with the extended tail which makes it handy for turning on and off rather than the standard rear button.

I’ve got the 67 but it’s pretty big, doing it again I would probably go with the 50 plus the rail / mount from the torch factory as well.

 

[evetseel]

Nightmaster 800 red or green LED. The red one seems to reach much further than the green one, but that may be my eyes rather than a general thing.
Buy the standard one, not with the button that reduces/increases intensity, as I find that on the lower power settings it often turns off by itself at the moment you don't want it to.
Get the best scope/torch mount you can find as there are many cheap, nasty systems on the market that will not work and fall apart quickly. This is my choice, after experience with many bad products that ended up in the bin: Fully Adjustable Rail Mount with Windage and Elevation Adjustment
You'll also need a scope-mounted rail, such as this one: Scope Ring with Rail for Adding a Rail to Your Rifle Scope

Thanks for the advise. What’s your thoughts on the view of rigid mounted scope devices compromising the scope tube? I was always of the impression that a little more flimsy setup what prevent scope damage if you ever happen to contact the lamp significantly, I.e bumping it on a gate etc.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

Thanks for the advise. What’s your thoughts on the view of rigid mounted scope devices compromising the scope tube? I was always of the impression that a little more flimsy setup what prevent scope damage if you ever happen to contact the lamp significantly, I.e bumping it on a gate etc.

Mine is on a cheap ish picatinny mount. I have bumped it hard enough to move the mount but not damaged the scope. You can always add a piece of film leader or something so it slips round the scope if knocked hard. Less likely to cause damage than if it is rock solid.

 

[User00025]

Nightmaster 800 red or green LED. The red one seems to reach much further than the green one, but that may be my eyes rather than a general thing.
Buy the standard one, not with the button that reduces/increases intensity, as I find that on the lower power settings it often turns off by itself at the moment you don't want it to.
Get the best scope/torch mount you can find as there are many cheap, nasty systems on the market that will not work and fall apart quickly. This is my choice, after experience with many bad products that ended up in the bin: Fully Adjustable Rail Mount with Windage and Elevation Adjustment
You'll also need a scope-mounted rail, such as this one: Scope Ring with Rail for Adding a Rail to Your Rifle Scope

Spot on Erik but as you say fully adj rail mount.
Personally I find green better than red but we are all different, the extension for extra battery is also good. I reckon on a clear night 400yds but I ain't someone who shoots that far (only with 50cal )

 

[Freeforester]

Acebeam W10 LEP: lighter than most, smaller than most, more throw than most, less spill than most. Comes with red and green filters, as well as the plain light itself. No spill! Rat tail switch also available. USB charging.

 

[deerly departed]

You need to be aware that rechargeable cells are not good with recoiling rifles. The heavy recoil can cause them to damage internally.
If it has springs in the torch - front, back or both,.. a heavy recoiling rifle can disconnect the supply.
A dimmer switch with a remote can be very useful. I am usung a ludicrouus lumens tri LED with rat tail dimmer and a focus head works well.

 

[Ranger22]

I use a NM 800 and a T67, both will get you put 200m. The T67 is brighter but heavier than the NM800. What ever torch you get, use an adjustable mount. The figures of 8 are very limiting.

 

[G4ZZ]

I’ve had a Nm800 and found it very good, but a friend of mine bought a sniper hog and it wiped the floor with the Nm800.
needles to say I now own a Sniper hog.

 

[reloader54]

shop around if you can, quite a few chancers out there selling Chinese alixpress stuff at ridiculous mark ups, stick with a reputable seller. no point in paying £20 for something you can get elsewhere for 2.99.

 

[Primate]

I dont want to go down the night vision or thermal route. I enjoy the method of lamping and have no probs with success. Just wanted that out the way before everyone and his hound recommends that.

I’m looking for recommendation on scope mounted lamps. I want something that’s going to get me out to 200yds on foxes and rabbits.

Before night vision I never managed to get on with gun mounted lights. I have done alot of solo foxing over the years with a lamp. By far the best method for me was a hand held lamp in left hand and rifle on quad sticks. Foxes are very mobile. In theory the gun mounted lights work but in practice for me they were never any good. Too smaller beam and target acquisition a bloody nightmare.

 

[oxonhunter]

got cpl T20 + Red pill fitted with Sony Doubler lens or i have T74 Red Pill Both will get you out to 250 /300yrds no problem
Also have cpl Light Force Scope Mounted Lamps + Filters or have cpl old Deben Max Lamps kits with dimmer
pm if your interested and ill send you some info and pic's

 

[Erik Hamburger]

Thanks for the advise. What’s your thoughts on the view of rigid mounted scope devices compromising the scope tube? I was always of the impression that a little more flimsy setup what prevent scope damage if you ever happen to contact the lamp significantly, I.e bumping it on a gate etc.

The fully adjustable torch mount I recommended is spring loaded so small bumps are absorbed, and the torch returns to its zero. (Yes, the torch also needs to be zero'd, in line with your scope set up). I have never lost any zero on my scopes as a result of mounting a torch.

 

[Cyres]

Torch factory 50 mm with a red pill will cost you £50 and will out perform a Nightmater. Put a small picatiny rail on the scope tube and then use an Ant's supplies adjustable torch mount. This is my standard set up on my .204. I have rails on scopes on my .22 lr and.243 and just swap torch around. If possible get a spill shade, sadly never seem to be in stock at torch factory. Get 3 mode switch, I tend to use lowest power on rabbits with the LR and on highest setting you can shoot to 200yds in good conditions. However 200 yds at night is a long way. Should have change out of £100 for the whole set up.

I use another Torch factory with IR pill for NV and that is also excellent.

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[Blobby159]

I have tried several "torch-like" scope attached L.E.D. powered light sources and they are good, but i.m.h.o. NOT as useable as the old style LightForce type big disc lamps who's lighting source is a fairly traditional Xenon Filament bulb similar to what the older style cars have in their headlights...

My LightForce lamp is designated an 'RSM170' which is one down in size (reflector diameter) from the 'Blitz' big one. I use it with a red filter attached semi-permanently. The reflector is sufficient to concentrate and throw a powerful beam of DECENT enough width to light up something like 30yds wide area across the medium sized fields I hunt fox and rabbit over - around 150 to 200 yds from hedge to opposite hedge. That is good enough that identifying AND following say a mobile fox at full range either over the scope or through it is possible and easy, unlike the strong but tight and very clipped beams of the L.E.D. torch type illuminators that I have used that only just fill my P.O.V. through a 10x scope at similar ranges.

The ONLY downsize I see and have experienced with this more traditionally bulb light lamp is that it requires one to carry an external power source. However, since buying one of those ION type batteries at one of the Game Fares I am much happier. Those power sources weigh just a few ounces as apposed to the old lead/acid motorbike type batteries I used to carry on a separate belt around my waist, and mine is a 10 amp/hour version so no whimp in the longevity stakes!!..

I truly STILL rate my RSM 170 LightForce lamp as the best used by me so far for all round functionality.. Try one and I doubt you'll be upset with the choice made !

ATB ...... and shoot safely.