They're certainly going to have great difficulty recruiting anybody with a properly functioning brain in future.
SERIOUSLY???
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They're certainly going to have great difficulty recruiting anybody with a properly functioning brain in future.
As long as they don,t swallow.
why are you here then?
just ignore it if it doesn't interest you, I wasn't aware all posts had to meet with your approval.
Your posts most definitely don't require my, or anyone else's approval (except maybe the moderators) and you're most definitely NOT the reason why I'm here.
However, if you post something, I'm entirely entitled to give my opinion on it - in exactly the same way as you regularly do on other peoples posts
Cheers
Bruce
Too much information. Oh dear what have I started? I imagine it wont be long before this emoji 
appears in a post soon.
MAH
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I disagree, alcohol impares judgment and shouldn't be consumed at work.
Reddick is free to, and right to prompt discussion.
I think it sets a worrying principle and w should be concerned about Descrimination in the work place.
Veganism has recently been recognised as a "protected philosophical belief" by an employment Tribunal. And as such is protected under the equality act. Which is all well and good.
However, this firm have gone a big leap further.
Yes the staff were consulted, yes they had a vote. But it was not it was not unanimous vote of agreement. And even if it was unanimous now, what about new recruits ? Would it become parts of the Employee Hand book?
So it seems to me that this firm is forcing it's none Vegan staff to participate in Veganism, (A protected philosophical belief) ,or be financially penalised.
And to highlight my poiint, can you imagine the fuss if a company (which was predominantly one religion) voted to restrict expenses to Halal, or Kosher food, or banned both?
It is descrimination in the work place. Clear and simple. I hope someone challenges it under the Equality Act because it discriminates against the freedom of choice for those who are not Vegan.
M.
Orion
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I’d prefer something more original like, well, ‘The Chronicles of Riddick’. Got a nice ring to it and you never know, it might go far!
Back to the OP. If they’re insisting on all staff going veggie they’d better ensure the office aircon/ventilation is up to scratch if they want to avoid an oppressive working environment.
I had a frank discussion with a guy who I do contract turning for...
They have a shoot which I have been on and noted the hip flasks being passed around I mentioned it one day at lunch
He said oh it is traditional.....
I said...what would you say to me taking a nip from a hip flask while running the big lathe.?
Silence from the other side of the table lol
Tim.243
Orion
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Is it though? A decision by an employment tribunal (which may end up being challenged) wouldn’t of itself ensure that ‘Ethical Veganism’ became a protected characteristic within the remit of the Equality Act without changes to the primary legislation. The ruling by the employment court that in that case, and that case alone, it satisfied the test of being a ‘philosophical belief’ does not have a binding effect on other tribunals and each case would have to stand on it’s own merits.
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Hook'N'Bullet
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and that something is going to die so the crops are protected. IE Deer/rabbits/flies/insects. May aswel eat them if it gonna happen anyway
dartmoordog
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.............Who’s Riddick!
Odders
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Even more...
Pushed as "news" by the BBC via Newsbeat in order to influence children & no hint of a "woke" agenda at all, no siree...
MAH
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I recall a news item on this a while ago, but rather that quote from memory, I google Vaganism recognition, then quoted from that site.
The main point I was trying to highlight is,
A.. that the Vagan movement have successfully fought to gain recognition, and prevent Vagans from being forced in to situations that doesn't align with their belief. Which I do support. (I think the case was about a Vagan being asked to work on a meat counter).
B.. This firm is forcing meat eaters (none believers) into participating in their philosophical belief. Which is descrimination.
As a layman I think the parallels are clear to compare with other forms of discrimination.
M.
For those with an interest in these things:-
If you're in a situation where you're ingesting your partner's semen, the issue is with consent. If both parties consent, then the consumption of semen during oral sex is vegan. In fact, the US Vegan Society actually defines veganism as relating explicitly to non-human animals. 14 Apr 2018
This definition seems a little odd but then again what is there about Vegan's that isnt - - a bit odd ? hey. appear to have only found out about oral sex in 2018.
Apparently Veganism is about consent - so it must be assumed that all green things give their consent even though, like animals, they cant speak, I think I'll just eat meat the idea that Veg are harmed is too difficult for me to cope with.
They even say that the production of eggs is 'exploitation' - my hens do it for free - to them its natural to lay eggs. However if you get someone to 'exploit' them for you - collect the eggs that is, is it then Vegan or would you rather the eggs were 'killed' How do they tie their shoes ?
Mind, eggs as well as greens - ?
If you're in a situation where you're ingesting your partner's semen, the issue is with consent. If both parties consent, then the consumption of semen during oral sex is vegan. In fact, the US Vegan Society actually defines veganism as relating explicitly to non-human animals. 14 Apr 2018
This definition seems a little odd but then again what is there about Vegan's that isnt - - a bit odd ? hey. appear to have only found out about oral sex in 2018.
Apparently Veganism is about consent - so it must be assumed that all green things give their consent even though, like animals, they cant speak, I think I'll just eat meat the idea that Veg are harmed is too difficult for me to cope with.
They even say that the production of eggs is 'exploitation' - my hens do it for free - to them its natural to lay eggs. However if you get someone to 'exploit' them for you - collect the eggs that is, is it then Vegan or would you rather the eggs were 'killed' How do they tie their shoes ?
Mind, eggs as well as greens - ?
The vegan guy may have won his case at the Industrial Tribunal, but that would not prevent him from being fired for refusing to work on the meat counter.
Check this case which went to the supreme court Catholic midwives lose abortion case and which is arguably a much more important issue than not wanting to be involved with meat
Cheers
Bruce
Check this case which went to the supreme court Catholic midwives lose abortion case and which is arguably a much more important issue than not wanting to be involved with meat
Cheers
Bruce
dartmoordog
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I honestly don’t care if they have their own fridge, let them have their own kitchen, building.........Island! But no self righteous, smug looking, leaf munching *##** will ever tell me what I eat and don’t eat, or what I do or don’t do.
Preventing people from having a choice is fascism, my father fought against fascism, so will I and so will my son. Vegans who keep themselves to themselves, have true courage of their convictions, but I will not tolerate them trying to impose their will on me.........Because it will never happen.
Preventing people from having a choice is fascism, my father fought against fascism, so will I and so will my son. Vegans who keep themselves to themselves, have true courage of their convictions, but I will not tolerate them trying to impose their will on me.........Because it will never happen.
Max
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Yes they can smoke the bone, so I’m toldI can't breathe
Ranting about a rant eh? Takes one to....
FrenchieBoy
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I eat meat, I enjoy eating meat, if God didn't want me to eat meat then he wouldn't have made it taste so good. As such I will continue to eat meat for as long as I choose! I do not have a problem with those who choose not to eat meat but I certainly will not be dictated to and told that I am not allowed to eat meat without having to face any sort of a punishment - That is quite simply DISCRIMINATION!
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