setting up S&B scope

[marrajack]

Went to set up a second hand S&B 4x12x42 on some high luepold rings on my parker hale 243.

The scope was true center, however at maximum lower was 3 inch high.

I have heard there is a way to release the dial to go down again - or any other thoughts welcome, link to a video etc.

Cheers

 

[jcampbellsmith]

If you can, try swapping the rings round, but I doubt that will make much difference. A photo of your set-up would be helpful. I think you might need to put a shim under the tube in one of the rings. Good luck. JCS

 

[tjwaines]

Will a set of lower mounts work with your rifle or is there a specific reason for using a set of high mounts? Never heard of there being additional adjustment below max on S&B scopes but I would be happy to be corrected if there is?

Tom

 

[marrajack]

Cheers for the replies guys, there has been mention of a screw - presumably the one on the dial alters to allow further adjustment

 

[tjwaines]

Nah that's just for removing the top of the turret. Can you fit lower mounts? As JC suggested, try slipping a thin packer or shim under the tube in the rear ring, see if that helps, build up the packers until you have enough adjustment. Could need to be the front ring, but try and see which works.

Tom

 

[pilgrimmick]

Try swapping the rings, frint to rear, they may be inclined for long range work.

 

[Stover Rover]

As others have mentioned, try and get a set of lower mounts a 42mm objective should not require high mounts. Also the amount of adjustment on the higher mag scopes decreases you may only have +/- 50cm at 100m so setting your rings up becomes more critical as no one like to have their scope set up at the limit of adjustment.

 

[Brithunter]

Bear in mind using shims may put a crimp into the scope body tube.

Something is not right with the mount set up to cause this. I wonder if they are the correct rings and bases for the P-H. Leupold do various set ups for the various Mauser 98 clones.

 

[marrajack]

Gents
Took the PH dove tails off to fit the rings, the scope fits like a glove and bolt only clears it. The rings can't be swapped, as the windage ring goes to the back, and it is not interchangeable.

Appreciate all the efforts, I will take to gun shop for a butchers

 

[jcampbellsmith]

Thanks for the update. A photo of your set-up would still be appreciated. Good luck. JCS

 

[bewsher500]

are high rings needed on a 42mm Onj lens?
I have low Leupold rings (P/N#49971 measured at .650) on a Parker Hale with a 40mm Obj (43mm O/D) with plenty of clearance for bolt and barrel

 

[marrajack]

E=bewsher500;342301]are high rings needed on a 42mm Onj lens?
Are they fixed to the dove tail mate, mine look lower still, mine would only fix with the d t removed

 

[bewsher500]

E=bewsher500;342301]are high rings needed on a 42mm Onj lens?
Are they fixed to the dove tail mate, mine look lower still, mine would only fix with the d t removed

no. bolted straight on to the receiver. standard Leupold bases with windage at the back, twist and lock at the front.

does look high though.
come to think of it, these may not be "low" after all. I have the low ones on another parker hale!
will measure them. doh!

 

[jimo]

Gents
Took the PH dove tails off to fit the rings, the scope fits like a glove and bolt only clears it. The rings can't be swapped, as the windage ring goes to the back, and it is not interchangeable.

Have you got the windage ring set properly? I once made a hash of mine and had the scope slighly skew. This meant that to center it horizontally it was on the very edge of the scope windage adjustment. This had the effect of reduceing the verticle adjustment.

 

[marrajack]

I have taken a couple of pics on mobile, will forward if anyone would send numbers by PM & thanks again for all feedback

 

[BRORA260]

Dont shim the scope, shim under front base 2-3 thou, less chance of crimping scope tube, best of luck.

Regards,
Brora 260

 

[BRORA260]

These are definitely not low rings, I rather like Leupold rings and bases and use them a lot and the rings on the rifle appear to be highs and the rear base is also reversed. I will check my magpie box and see if I have a set of low rings going begging, p.m. with your details.
Regards,
Brora 260

 

[bewsher500]

These are definitely not low rings, I rather like Leupold rings and bases and use them a lot and the rings on the rifle appear to be highs and the rear base is also reversed. I will check my magpie box and see if I have a set of low rings going begging, p.m. with your details.
Regards,
Brora 260

That's not the OP's rifle, its mine. I am not sure they are "reversed", I set them that way deliberately as the scope is going to be more stable the further the rings are apart. Didnt make sense to have the windage adjustment at the front (especially since I have no intention of using them)

would like some double dovetail mounts though to get rid of the screws, never see them for sale here

 

[Brithunter]

The std Leupold mounts are actually the old Redfield Junior design which dates from about 1915 or thereabouts. Whelen wondered if those small jam screws would withstand heavy use but commended the mounts as being easy to fit and set up by the owner of a rifle at home and not needing the specialist knowledge and skill that some of the other mounts of the time required.

 

[User00003]

I had the same issue with my Millet mounts on a 30-06 with my S&B. The trick here is when you mount and boresight the scope, have the small range dial (in the little glass circle) set so it cannot be turned up any higher, that way you get twice the lowering range than starting out from the centre...makes sense? anyhow, it worked for me.