So What scope do you use and why?

Leica Fortis 6 - Bright and powerful.
That 72mm zeiss is possibly the best you can get, I was amazed looking through one.
S&B came out with two new "Ultra Bright" scopes. http://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/new-products/4-16x56-pm-ii-ultra-bright.html

Sorry Sharkey, cannot agree. I have had a few Leupolds VXII, VXIII and look through them every year at the IWA show, I think they are shocking in low light compared to Euro scopes. Even compared to a Zeiss Conquest they seem 20 years behind...even new ones.
I keep looking at Leupold because I quite like the low weight but just can't get myself to put one on my stalking rifle. Had one on a foxing rifle for some years and am glad it is gone.
edi
 
ejg said:
That 72mm zeiss is possibly the best you can get, I was amazed looking through one.
S&B came out with two new "Ultra Bright" scopes. http://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/new-products/4-16x56-pm-ii-ultra-bright.html
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ejg said:
Sorry Sharkey, cannot agree. I have had a few Leupolds VXII, VXIII and look through them every year at the IWA show, I think they are shocking in low light compared to Euro scopes. Even compared to a Zeiss Conquest they seem 20 years behind...even new ones.
I keep looking at Leupold because I quite like the low weight but just can't get myself to put one on my stalking rifle. Had one on a foxing rifle for some years and am glad it is gone.
edi
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Must admit not seen the PMII Ultra Bright before, when did they get released!

Re Leupold, I cant say I have ever been starkly impressed by them, I like them, but they just don't perform like the European glass, but of course the US market has 1/2 hour less window each end of the day to shoot, so maybe they thought they fulfill that requirement?

Another observation on the Zeiss I am using, it has a fine Mil ret, which is great for good fine accuracy, and the big surprise, not being a great fan of illumination, is that on the rheostat, it works really well and illuminates the whole ret, which does come into its own when it is getting on the edge. I didn't find this necessary with the old scope as the graticule lines were thicker. being a whole grat illumination and very dimmable, I don't find it a distraction as I have before.
 
I think they launched them at the shot show in USA.
My guess is they use the same innards for the two Polar T96 as for the two PMII Ultra brights. They claim over 96% light transmission.
edi
 
ejg said:
That 72mm zeiss is possibly the best you can get, I was amazed looking through one.
S&B came out with two new "Ultra Bright" scopes. http://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/new-products/4-16x56-pm-ii-ultra-bright.html

Sorry Sharkey, cannot agree. I have had a few Leupolds VXII, VXIII and look through them every year at the IWA show, I think they are shocking in low light compared to Euro scopes. Even compared to a Zeiss Conquest they seem 20 years behind...even new ones.
I keep looking at Leupold because I quite like the low weight but just can't get myself to put one on my stalking rifle. Had one on a foxing rifle for some years and am glad it is gone.
edi
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I did say "better eye relief & more rugged". I need my rifles to work & they do WORK. A good analogy is that I treat them like plumbers treat their chisels. I haven't found a European scope that can match my life style ( I do a lot of kms on bush roads). Leupolds are the ONLY scope which lasts long enough for me to have forgotten its cost. If I was just shooting paper or paddock deer I might choose "Gucci" instead of practical.
 
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sharkey said:
I did say "better eye relief & more rugged". I need my rifles to work & they do WORK. A good analogy is that I treat them like plumbers treat their chisels. I haven't found a European scope that can match my life style ( I do a lot of kms on bush roads). Leupolds are the ONLY scope which lasts long enough for me to have forgotten its cost.
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You are certainly right when it comes to some of the newer Euro scopes with their little rubber rings and buttons especially for brightness adjustment on the illumination. Zeiss, Leica, Swaro, even some S&B have these.
I prefer either the mil spec versions or older spec such as the classic/zenith range which are normally very sturdy.
edi
 
I use a v8 x56 my , eyes are 57 yrs old and I know the what the papers say I just like x56 , I use a x 50 for 1400 yard paper work and yes it works just about ok , but low light its crap and I just can't get a full down range picture as I can with the x56 so my stalking rifles have x56 on them its a choice I can live with my eyes have change as most of us old gits but happy to say just 1.5 glasses for the last 4 years have been enough and I still am lucky not to need them for shooting ,I have added big numbers to avoid this on my scope ASV ring.
Paul
 
I get to see it all, & I do get to try it all. I can choose to have what I like. I choose Leupolds, because it's one less factor I have to deal with. I don't think I'm being biased, just honest about my own observations.

I do have a Burris on some tranq guns, but only because they offer the best utility.
 
I much prefer the older scopes, the newer ones seem to have a lot more problems, seeing some of the posts on this site, my Leupold mk4 is as rugged as they get same goes for my m8 and old Swarovski, but the most rugged scope I have is a millet gold buck, which fell 5ft onto a log pile, is bent, so I had to take a flat chainsaw file to the adjuster ring so I could adjust the mag, it's still held zero and does not fog, is as clear as any s&b I have looked through, try that with some of the new all singing dancing new scopes.
 
Taff said:
When in the UK, I used 6x42 Swarovski on my 270, and 6x42 leupold on my rim fire, because it was all I needed, since moving to NZ I have a 6.5 - 20x 50 leupold mk4 because the pigs and goats are always on the next hill
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Have a word with Doc mate! If its goats you want, there are places in NZ that they are so thick on the ground you can hit them with stones!
 
paul o' said:
I use a v8 x56 my , eyes are 57 yrs old and I know the what the papers say I just like x56 , I use a x 50 for 1400 yard paper work and yes it works just about ok , but low light its crap and I just can't get a full down range picture as I can with the x56 so my stalking rifles have x56 on them its a choice I can live with my eyes have change as most of us old gits but happy to say just 1.5 glasses for the last 4 years have been enough and I still am lucky not to need them for shooting ,I have added big numbers to avoid this on my scope ASV ring.
Paul
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;);) Yes and that little red dot takes some Beating paul
 
SaOsborne said:
......, I like them, but they just don't perform like the European glass, but of course the US market has 1/2 hour less window each end of the day to shoot, so maybe they thought they fulfill that requirement......
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I would concur with your statement about US shooting hours, we as a rule don't shoot as early or as late, by law.

One other US factor to consider, and this is a generalization, is the "average" US shooter doesn't has a great many more rifles than the "average" UK shooter. Therefore, if I am putting glass on 5-10 rifles, I am not likely to spend $1000 per scope, instead I will look at $250-500 "good enough glass". Leopold fills this niche well, with Redfield (leopolds made withPhilippine glass) and the VX I
 
49ERIC said:
any chance of knowing which rifle range has 1400 meters ??? Bisley's only got 1200 meters
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Unless they have totally rebuilt Stickledown the range is 1200 YARDS. Century range is 600 yards and Short Sibreia 200 yards. It was not even Bisley that put the benches in on Short Siberia a club did so at their own expense after all prone riflemen have no need of benches.

The only two ranges that are in metres are the Running Deer at 100 metres and the three position range at 300 metres. I will admit not having been to Bisley in years but somehow I cannot see the tight arsed NRA spending the amount of money that rebuilding the ranges to metres would cost. Heck it was bad enough getting them to maintain was they had in decent condition. The only reason the Time Limit range got rebuilt was that the BSRC did it and the same reason applies to why the Running deer range is so good the club keeps it up the NRA don't do anything if they can avoid it.
 
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Conure said:
The only two ranges that are in metres are the Running Deer at 100 metres and the three position range at 300 metres.
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Bizarrely, the Running Deer at BSRC is probably nearer 90m, as the static firing points to the left are around 95 yards
 
Nightforce 3.5-15x50 np2dd reticle.

Brilliant nt for anything. Plonk the dot on what you want to make a hole in and away you go.

I love it, maybe would change it for something similar like the 5.5-22 but had the 8-32 and it was too big to be practical
 
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