Mentioned on news, anti’s upset over hunt trips offers
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fixedwheel
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Deflecting the recent news about the Chair of LACS? Nah, surely not....
Brad93
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Why has an anti gone to a "game" fairMentioned on news, anti’s upset over hunt trips offers
I think they just like to cause trouble.
Another , same sort of people, causing upsets to small children visiting an Easter event at a petting farm down south somewheres, handing out gory leaflets.
GNU
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What a load of boll””ka
Trophy hunter's sick Instagram boasts as slaughter trips on sale at UK fair
Dozens of holidays to kill majestic creatures like zebras were being flogged from Staffordshire's County Showground while the number of animals being killed by British trophy hunters is going up
www.mirror.co.uk
First thing I noticed was the truly awful photography; then I read the article. I know that I am biased, but that is poorly written incoherent nonsense.
"This year is the 10th anniversary of the killing of Cecil..."
(Thank God they didn't work out the real purpose of the show, because it's the 83rd anniversary of Bambi's mum getting shot)
"This year is the 10th anniversary of the killing of Cecil..."
(Thank God they didn't work out the real purpose of the show, because it's the 83rd anniversary of Bambi's mum getting shot)
Reckon she could promote canoes with feet like that.
So they can be “offended”
Brad93
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InfuriatingWhat a load of boll””ka
Trophy hunter's sick Instagram boasts as slaughter trips on sale at UK fair
Dozens of holidays to kill majestic creatures like zebras were being flogged from Staffordshire's County Showground while the number of animals being killed by British trophy hunters is going upwww.mirror.co.uk
Heym SR20
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Back in 1991 I wrote my thesis on game ranching in Southern Africa which accounted for 1/3 of my degree. I spent a whole summer in Zimbabwe and read just about every single published paper on the subject.
At that point in time Southern African agriculture was still focused on mimicking European agriculture. All the Lowveld of Zimbabwe was still down to irrigated wheat and maize with dryer areas down to cattle ranching. The high veld was down to mixed tobacco / wheat and cattle. South Africa pretty much the same.
On the farms was the odd Duiker and odd Kudu. Game animals treated as pests and pretty much shot on sight. Only real concentrations was in the National Parks, abd even most of those - certainly in Zambia were poached out. 1992 / 93 I spent a lot of time in the Kafue and Lower Zambezi National Parks in Zambia and you occasionally saw the tail of an impala disappearing fast. But otherwise large swathes of not a lot.
At that time there was little trophy hunting. Most farmers had no interest in game, and any thoughts or mention of game ranching was treated with derision. (Pretty much the same as mentioning low till or organic agriculture in the UK).
Fast forward to today vaste swathes of Africa are now back into natural bushveld and rather than cattle, game animals reign supreme. With bushveld you have a mix of grasses, forbes and trees all working together. The trees act as both and water and nutrient pump providing nutrients for lesser plants. African ungulates are naturally adapted and by having a mix of animals your potential yield in terms of protein is very much higher than clearing the bush for cattle.
And the real beauty is that game needs minimal inputs. They don’t sick with sleeping sickness etc, they don’t need supplemental feeding. They just thrive.
Every year you have a sustainable crop of meat animals to harvest. No trucking to abattoirs etc. a quick clean kill and you have a valuable protein for use by all. Go into any Supermarket or butchery and game meat is widely sold.
There is now far more game in Southern Africa than there ever used to be.
And on some farms, estates, concessions there are hunting operations where professionals hunters take visiting hunters into the bush. Licenses are limited and expensive. These are paid for the visiting hunters, and their money goes straight back into the wildlife management. The $50k to €100k licences to shoot an old bull elephant pays an awful lot towards anti poaching patrols.
If you want ti see how mass tourism wrecks the bush just visit Kenya. If want to see real Africa have a look at hunting videos from Zim, Zambia or Mozambique.
Most of the anti’s will probably be banging on about CO2 from Cattle, want rewilding and will advocate shooting all our deer. In the UK, especially Scotland we have broken our deer stalking industry. Taxpayers are now having to pay millions to support culling of deer.
In Africa tourists willingly put lots of money into hunting, and cull animals have real value in the local market. So much so that natural habitat and wildlife is thriving.
At that point in time Southern African agriculture was still focused on mimicking European agriculture. All the Lowveld of Zimbabwe was still down to irrigated wheat and maize with dryer areas down to cattle ranching. The high veld was down to mixed tobacco / wheat and cattle. South Africa pretty much the same.
On the farms was the odd Duiker and odd Kudu. Game animals treated as pests and pretty much shot on sight. Only real concentrations was in the National Parks, abd even most of those - certainly in Zambia were poached out. 1992 / 93 I spent a lot of time in the Kafue and Lower Zambezi National Parks in Zambia and you occasionally saw the tail of an impala disappearing fast. But otherwise large swathes of not a lot.
At that time there was little trophy hunting. Most farmers had no interest in game, and any thoughts or mention of game ranching was treated with derision. (Pretty much the same as mentioning low till or organic agriculture in the UK).
Fast forward to today vaste swathes of Africa are now back into natural bushveld and rather than cattle, game animals reign supreme. With bushveld you have a mix of grasses, forbes and trees all working together. The trees act as both and water and nutrient pump providing nutrients for lesser plants. African ungulates are naturally adapted and by having a mix of animals your potential yield in terms of protein is very much higher than clearing the bush for cattle.
And the real beauty is that game needs minimal inputs. They don’t sick with sleeping sickness etc, they don’t need supplemental feeding. They just thrive.
Every year you have a sustainable crop of meat animals to harvest. No trucking to abattoirs etc. a quick clean kill and you have a valuable protein for use by all. Go into any Supermarket or butchery and game meat is widely sold.
There is now far more game in Southern Africa than there ever used to be.
And on some farms, estates, concessions there are hunting operations where professionals hunters take visiting hunters into the bush. Licenses are limited and expensive. These are paid for the visiting hunters, and their money goes straight back into the wildlife management. The $50k to €100k licences to shoot an old bull elephant pays an awful lot towards anti poaching patrols.
If you want ti see how mass tourism wrecks the bush just visit Kenya. If want to see real Africa have a look at hunting videos from Zim, Zambia or Mozambique.
Most of the anti’s will probably be banging on about CO2 from Cattle, want rewilding and will advocate shooting all our deer. In the UK, especially Scotland we have broken our deer stalking industry. Taxpayers are now having to pay millions to support culling of deer.
In Africa tourists willingly put lots of money into hunting, and cull animals have real value in the local market. So much so that natural habitat and wildlife is thriving.
I’ve shot on the Uk grounds of one of the “sick trophy hunters”
His personal farm is a haven for Uk wildlife with vast areas of land returned to its natural state.
Perfect habitat for waders and wildfowl. Large areas of wetlands covered in Uk flora and fauna. He’s a very keen shooting man but also keen on conservation
His personal farm is a haven for Uk wildlife with vast areas of land returned to its natural state.
Perfect habitat for waders and wildfowl. Large areas of wetlands covered in Uk flora and fauna. He’s a very keen shooting man but also keen on conservation
tusker
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love that, well said. As they say in Africa, " if it pays, it stays"
Tusker
Bavarianbrit
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Well that would be the last time I would buy the Mirror if I ever had in the past.
Why should they worry about what other folks spend their money on eh? Folks need to keep to themselves a lot more , tell you what if there was no trips available to UK hunters , the exact same amount of hunting would carry on abroad and if it was stopped any place the Government of that land (including our nation) would need to make a laws that could employ folks to cull using taxpayers money !Mentioned on news, anti’s upset over hunt trips offers
Got a feeling our current uk leaders are thick enough to think differently though they would be just as wrong
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