The Professor says it will be safe....

tozzybum

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Daily these "specialists" contradict each other so the majority of us haven't got clue 1 what is truth and what is bottom droppings .
Wine is good for you ,no its bad ,don't eat meat no eat lots of meat.
Il do what grandad did eat n drink what ever and enjoy life .He was 87 and his dad lasted to 91 so yah boo sucks to science.
 

dunwater

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They’ll shift the goal post once you get close to the target figure, we were promised that the restrictions would be lifted once we got above 70%, currently we’re above 82% and now they say that we need everyone vaccinated….
Even the kids that last year we were assured couldn’t catch or carry Covid.
Its a never ending exercise in manipulation and control backed up by state sanctioned violence if you protest, but someone as smart as you has already worked this out surely, you’ve been through more than enough lockdowns to know that they dont work.
 

JockStalk

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One thing is for definite, the COViD elimination strategy adopted in ANZ is not sustainable. Every country needs to get immunity up and life/ commerce restarted.
ANZ is particularly at risk because of the extremely fragile public healthcare system, so I get the caution. But the vax programme needs to get a shift on.
 

John Gryphon

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lockdowns and isolations do work.

Lets say we have 100 disease free rabbits isolated on an island and then one myxo rabbit joins them.
 

dunwater

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lockdowns and isolations do work.

Lets say we have 100 disease free rabbits isolated on an island and then one myxo rabbit joins them.
That’s exactly why lockdowns dont work as a strategy, you‘re only safe as long as you stay isolated and you can’t do that forever. Use the lockdown to roll out a vaccination programme, herd immunity is the only strategic solution, either by exposure or vaccination.
Or just stay in the bunker for the rest of your life, they’re the only 2 choices have now that Covid is endemic.
 

308tikka

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You wont have a tourism sector. Some might be happy with that...

You wont have Aussie businessmen going overseas. A friend who makes a LOT of taxable income needs to operate his business outside Australian territory-in marine salvage. Just one example.
Another is that Australia isnt self sufficient. You have to import vehicles, machinery...and cheap labour.
 

kes

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There used to be a sying that some people would bet on two flies walking down a window - is there an equivalent saying for arguing with no facts ?
 

John Gryphon

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No Pom imports currently or Pom exports according to my mate out In Melbourne who was planning a trip back to the U.K.
It hurts to say it :lol: but for me personally i would rather more Poms than plane loads of others that are destined for here.
 

kripton

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They’ll shift the goal post once you get close to the target figure, we were promised that the restrictions would be lifted once we got above 70%, currently we’re above 82% and now they say that we need everyone vaccinated….
Even the kids that last year we were assured couldn’t catch or carry Covid.
Its a never ending exercise in manipulation and control backed up by state sanctioned violence if you protest, but someone as smart as you has already worked this out surely, you’ve been through more than enough lockdowns to know that they dont work.
I don't mean to be picky but so far as I recall no-one said or assured us that : -

1. Kids couldn't catch Covid - It was said that the kids were at less risk of serious illness than older or vulnerable adults.
2. Kids couldn't carry (by this I assume you mean transmit) Covid - It was said that the extent of transmission from kids carrying the virus was uncertain.
3. The vaccination programme would prevent us from catching the virus but would greatly lessen the chance of dying from it.

As to the lockdowns: -
(i) I personally believe that if everyone (and I mean everyone in view of the infection rate of the virus) had obeyed the lockdown regulations/advice then the number of Covid cases/deaths would have
been substantially reduced.
(ii) Given (ii) above, how would you suggest the authorities dealt with breaches of the lockdown regulations?
(iii) What the hell did protesters think would be achieved by breaking the lockdown regulations - wouldn't they appreciate or see the reason for the regulations and what the result of their breach could
be or didn't they just care about themselves or others - perhaps most were relatively young and thought the virus would not affect them severely.

A number on this forum (and elsewhere of course) find it so easy (especially with the benefit of hindsight) to criticize the steps which have been taken to try to cope with this virus - why cannot we have some positive suggestions as to what you (and other critics) think should and can be achieved to deal with it.
It appears from the tone of many of the critics that they think they could all have done better in the circumstances and if this is the case then please let's share their proposals.

Rant over.
 

Freeforester

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Try prevention, rather than cure? I know it’s an outdated, currently unfashionable view, still - might be worth considering, given the Israeli and increasingly the US experience with EUA jabs of waning efficacy and breakthrough variant ‘escape’, never mind the obvious safety issues?
 

Fair Hill

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I don't mean to be picky but so far as I recall no-one said or assured us that : -

1. Kids couldn't catch Covid - It was said that the kids were at less risk of serious illness than older or vulnerable adults.
2. Kids couldn't carry (by this I assume you mean transmit) Covid - It was said that the extent of transmission from kids carrying the virus was uncertain.
3. The vaccination programme would prevent us from catching the virus but would greatly lessen the chance of dying from it.

As to the lockdowns: -
(i) I personally believe that if everyone (and I mean everyone in view of the infection rate of the virus) had obeyed the lockdown regulations/advice then the number of Covid cases/deaths would have
been substantially reduced.
(ii) Given (ii) above, how would you suggest the authorities dealt with breaches of the lockdown regulations?
(iii) What the hell did protesters think would be achieved by breaking the lockdown regulations - wouldn't they appreciate or see the reason for the regulations and what the result of their breach could
be or didn't they just care about themselves or others - perhaps most were relatively young and thought the virus would not affect them severely.

A number on this forum (and elsewhere of course) find it so easy (especially with the benefit of hindsight) to criticize the steps which have been taken to try to cope with this virus - why cannot we have some positive suggestions as to what you (and other critics) think should and can be achieved to deal with it.
It appears from the tone of many of the critics that they think they could all have done better in the circumstances and if this is the case then please let's share their proposals.

Rant over.
You're bang on the ball in all your points and far from being picky you are helping to stop the spread of misinformation which is costing thousands of lives.

Most of the critics, especially the ones on here, just change their stance when they eventually see the light. In their view when it started off it started was a "scamdemic" and we had nothing to fear. Then when they could no longer retain that stance they promptly fled down their respective rabbit holes to source some other information on the internet which would prove their initial thought that everything was being handled totally wrong by the people qualified or elected to make decisions on our behalf.h

It's actually amusing to a point but a sad reflection on society overall.
 

JockStalk

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lockdowns and isolations do work.

Lets say we have 100 disease free rabbits isolated on an island and then one myxo rabbit joins them.
Do you want to remain a rabbit, schitting yourself in your burrow on your island until the next Myxo rabbit lands? Because to use your analogy the rest of the world is chokka with them and they will keep landing.
Or do the rabbits do something constructive, like get vaccinated, so the threat of myxo evaporates?
 
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