What a total utter crock of . There are Stalkers an Wannabe's along with those that can and those that can't .
Thermal scopes on deer
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What a total utter crock of . There are Stalkers an Wannabe's along with those that can and those that can't .
baguio
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What a stupid post stalkerboy. Please explain rather than offering abuse!
kenbro
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baguio
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People need to realise that lots of land owners don't like deer as they cost them money. They don't care how they're culled as long as they are culled humanly. I totally understand that lots of people stalk deer for a sport but you would be surprised how many do it for a living. I have been on two driving days in the last two weeks as the numbers are out of control. Not particularly sporting but it sure made a dent in the numbers and the land owners were delighted.
If the tools are available and they're legal then why not use them?
If the tools are available and they're legal then why not use them?
I understand the romanticism for the sporting stalker I really do .....
But.......
As said there are other people out there that do this for a job and have targets to meet and all the stress and daily crap that comes from having bosses and doing a job ......
That said I know folk who do this job and STILL have the respect STILL go for the humane shot that ensures quick kill ......but as with any tradesman ....they use tools in the toolbox available to them.
Technology like time waits for no man......even if you don’t like it....it’s here ...and as with every other aspect of life if you don’t like it don’t use it ....but for those in the camp that are doing a job don’t knock them because they decide to embrace technology to help their side of things
Lot of professionals still have that respect for the amateurs who hold deer in high regard ....
I think a lot of amateurs should reciprocate that respect for those that have a job to do .....
Oh.....quick question ......for those that hold deer so highly ......do you give. Night on the rabbits the same respect ? Respect to the quarry? .....how many leave em lying ?
I use mine
Paul
But.......
As said there are other people out there that do this for a job and have targets to meet and all the stress and daily crap that comes from having bosses and doing a job ......
That said I know folk who do this job and STILL have the respect STILL go for the humane shot that ensures quick kill ......but as with any tradesman ....they use tools in the toolbox available to them.
Technology like time waits for no man......even if you don’t like it....it’s here ...and as with every other aspect of life if you don’t like it don’t use it ....but for those in the camp that are doing a job don’t knock them because they decide to embrace technology to help their side of things
Lot of professionals still have that respect for the amateurs who hold deer in high regard ....
I think a lot of amateurs should reciprocate that respect for those that have a job to do .....
Oh.....quick question ......for those that hold deer so highly ......do you give. Night on the rabbits the same respect ? Respect to the quarry? .....how many leave em lying ?
I use mine
Paul
shakey jake
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I find the double standards with animals really funny, thermal night vision fine for rabbits and foxes but deer are magical and should only be killed as alast resort? If its legal whats the problem, if you have a job to get done do the deer care if you spotted them with an antique pair of binos or a brand new thermal?
Personally i find thermal spotters ok on farms that dont have much wildlife, but when foxing on a farm with loads of hare and muntjac they can be very hard work
Shakey
Personally i find thermal spotters ok on farms that dont have much wildlife, but when foxing on a farm with loads of hare and muntjac they can be very hard work
Shakey
An Taín Hunting Outfitter
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If numbers are out of control what is the need for a thermal imager. Just because deer are plentiful they should not deserve less respect. When hunting is considered special I believe it brings more fulfillment.
The day I lose that respect for deer I will hang up my rifle.
The day I lose that respect for deer I will hang up my rifle.
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An Taín Hunting Outfitter
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i guess for many of us this topic divides opinion.
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Please Don't refer to me as Boy or my post is Stupid as that IS Abuse towards myself.
I was not offering Abuse.
It's very simple work hard stalk hard and you will get your Targets.
I won't get into I've shot Willy waving contest BUT I'm nothing special i have a full-time job yet i managed to reach a Big Cull ( into hundreds Fallow Red-Muntjac ) number with out Thermal - night shooting etc and your comment about less stressful for the Herd how's that work !!!!! When i get into a herd of Deer Safe to shoot you saying they'd be less stressed if I was using thermal
Also i want as many Deer through the Larder as possible
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kenbro
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+1 absolutely.
Ken.
Ranger22
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It's horses for courses in my opinion. I have the luxury of being a recreational stalker, without too much pressure on cull numbers, and only have Roe and Muntjac on the main piece of ground. I wouldn't dream of using thermal for the roe. My cull target is only 12 to 15 a year, they are not difficult to find and if I can't do it without thermal I'm not a very good hunter! On the Muntjac I would be tempted I must admit, little buggers are always in cover, hard to find and breeding faster than I can shoot them.
The Fallow are a problem on another piece of ground. Mainly nocturnal in the open, in the woods during daylight hours and often found underneath a bramble bush in the winter. We hit the number on the Doe cull by putting the hours in, but life would certainly be more efficient with thermal.
If I was earning my living from shooting deer, especially Fallow, I have absolutely no doubt that I would be investing in a thermal spotter. Luckily I'm not in that position and can cling on to the old romantic image of deer stalking, although I do use a scope...
The Fallow are a problem on another piece of ground. Mainly nocturnal in the open, in the woods during daylight hours and often found underneath a bramble bush in the winter. We hit the number on the Doe cull by putting the hours in, but life would certainly be more efficient with thermal.
If I was earning my living from shooting deer, especially Fallow, I have absolutely no doubt that I would be investing in a thermal spotter. Luckily I'm not in that position and can cling on to the old romantic image of deer stalking, although I do use a scope...
You want to read posts properly.
Where did i post/say i stalked Deer for sport . What part of when i got chance i wack as many as i can is 32 Wild Fallow shot by myself Saturday and Sunday sport Stalking.
My Cull each year was in the Hundreds mainly Fallow oh and when the Doe season ended last day of February.
It was merely my opinion with my experience Thermal would not have helped me what so ever and the Statement " less stressful to the Herd " is utter Rubbish.
If you and people want to use it so what. I still use a Lamp and Rifle for Fox Rabbit control Guess what I'm surrounded by NV/Thermal users who shoot no more than me am i a Hero ?????? Certainly not just the same as there are many who shoot/shot far more Deer than me.
I'll end now on You seem to think I'm a Sport Deer Stalker
Really if only you knew.
You and me both, all animals should be treated with respect but why one respected more than another is beyond me
Maybe this quote from Animal Farm by George Orwell is relevant to this discussion "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
Cheers
Bruce
Cheers
Bruce
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