Tough titties.

[John Gryphon]

Trump says three 'narcoterrorists' killed in US strike on alleged drug boat

This is the third fatal strike the US military has carried out this month on a vessel allegedly carrying drugs.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Mountain Bug]

I guess they F'd around and found out, or did they find out? Hey Juan, what's that?........BOOM!!!


Scott

 

[HonestJohn]

I think it’s good the issue is being handled with authority, although, it’s contentious to do it over international waters. Maybe lowering the legal drinking age to 18 would help too, so youngsters don’t go for cheap drugs readily available because it’s too hard to get beer and vodka. Part of the problem is within, the US have for years created the market by making it hard to get booze when you’re in high school and college.

In europe, kids get drunk, very few resort to drugs. They did it to themselves! But yes, also sort the suppliers, but maybe don’t blame them entirely for the systems failings

 

[Camdig]

I think it’s good the issue is being handled with authority, although, it’s contentious to do it over international waters. Maybe lowering the legal drinking age to 18 would help too, so youngsters don’t go for cheap drugs readily available because it’s too hard to get beer and vodka. Part of the problem is within, the US have for years created the market by making it hard to get booze when you’re in high school and college.

In europe, kids get drunk, very few resort to drugs. They did it to themselves! But yes, also sort the suppliers, but maybe don’t blame them entirely for the systems failings

What planet are you on? Drugs kill more people than terrorism in Europe, Scotland is the drug death capital of Europe.
Ive seen the devastation drugs do to community's and people profiting from should be dealt with any means necessary, they are now international terrorists so crossing borders or international waters is fair game.

 

[John Gryphon]

Scotland is the drug death capital of Europe.

Aye,I saw Trainspotting.

 

[Loki]

Hi

If real evidence i.e. (not fabricated to suit narrative or agenda) before hand as the information being acted on, was forthcoming and put before all, then there may be some justication. But, 'alleged' not unlike a certain entity in the Middle East, is unacceptable. Seems like the extra-judical killings that cannot be accepted in a civilised worls.

L

 

[John Gryphon]

Hi

If real evidence i.e. (not fabricated to suit narrative or agenda) before hand as the information being acted on, was forthcoming and put before all, then there may be some justication. But, 'alleged' not unlike a certain entity in the Middle East, is unacceptable. Seems like the extra-judical killings that cannot be accepted in a civilised worls.

L

I would opine that "they knew" that the occupants were dirty probably by tip off or agents.

 

[Loki]

Let all see the information (excluding critical names etc.) then I am sure there will be more support from all.....................I not holding me breathe - nowt will be forcoming!

 

[WW.]

I think it’s good the issue is being handled with authority, although, it’s contentious to do it over international waters. Maybe lowering the legal drinking age to 18 would help too, so youngsters don’t go for cheap drugs readily available because it’s too hard to get beer and vodka. Part of the problem is within, the US have for years created the market by making it hard to get booze when you’re in high school and college.

In europe, kids get drunk, very few resort to drugs. They did it to themselves! But yes, also sort the suppliers, but maybe don’t blame them entirely for the systems failings

Your argument distills down to ''People are doing this thing which is bad for them and society so we should to make it easier for them to do something else which is bad for them and society instead of fixing the underlying issues.''

As for very few in Europe resorting to drugs, that's a pretty uninformed position. It is hard to go a day without encountering weed or vaping where I live. There are kids using nicotine chews and various other drugs like spice and county lines wouldn't be such an issue if there wasn't a market for it. I'd recommend you look at drug data. We're not onto fentanyl yet fortunately but we have various issues with drug use and fentanyl will come too.

 

[Camdig]

Aye,I saw Trainspotting.

Scotland is in a similar situation to the 80s, very sad really when you see someone with potential whitter away their life's.

 

[VSS]

Your argument distills down to ''People are doing this thing which is bad for them and society so we should to make it easier for them to do something else which is bad for them and society instead of fixing the underlying issues.''

I like your use of the word "distills"
Maybe home brewing should be encouraged among young people?
I started brewing beer when I was about 14, and have never felt the need to indulge in more sinister drugs.
Perhaps @triggertrix makes a valid point?

Joking apart, I have noticed that among the many families that I have known through my life, it is in the ones that have a more relaxed attitude to alcohol consumption in the home by young people and children (for example at meals, family gatherings, parties, bbqs or even just ordinary evenings in) that the "youth" are far less likely to go off the rails and start indulging in heavy alcohol misuse and drugs.

 

[HonestJohn]

My wife and many I know grew up in the US, and I went through the US educational systeM in europe so knew many American kids.

My wife and all the family I know there always argue that getting booze was a PITA, so they all smoked weed instead, some went on to heroin and much else. The kids I grew up with up with from europe, we all drank and partied and it was fun. The American Kids who had come over and would eventually return, alll smoked weed and took pills, they didn’t see beer as a party essential.

My point is, it’s a lot better for kids to have a few pints than start on the weed and then try misc pills as a follow on.

 

[John Gryphon]

Let all see the information (excluding critical names etc.) then I am sure there will be more support from all.....................I not holding me breathe - nowt will be forthcoming!

They weren't packages of Mars Bars strewn around lol

 

[WW.]

My wife and many I know grew up in the US, and I went through the US educational systeM in europe so knew many American kids.

My wife and all the family I know there always argue that getting booze was a PITA, so they all smoked weed instead, some went on to heroin and much else. The kids I grew up with up with from europe, we all drank and partied and it was fun. The American Kids who had come over and would eventually return, alll smoked weed and took pills, they didn’t see beer as a party essential.

My point is, it’s a lot better for kids to have a few pints than start on the weed and then try misc pills as a follow on.

And better still is a route where the kids themselves chosoe neither and still have an awesome childhood.

I like your use of the word "distills"
Maybe home brewing should be encouraged among young people?
I started brewing beer when I was about 14, and have never felt the need to indulge in more sinister drugs.
Perhaps @triggertrix makes a valid point?

Joking apart, I have noticed that among the many families that I have known through my life, it is in the ones that have a more relaxed attitude to alcohol consumption in the home by young people and children (for example at meals, family gatherings, parties, bbqs or even just ordinary evenings in) that the "youth" are far less likely to go off the rails and start indulging in heavy alcohol misuse and drugs.

If only we could legally distill small volumes in the UK! For different reasons, yes I'd want to encourage that- more to do with developing skills/hobbies and knowing where food/drink comes from and how it's made. Not sure what age though.

I think you're absolutely right to point to parenting as a key aspect here. Family values and better parenting leading to strong, happy, families would solve a lot of the issues we see in society.

 

[tozzybum]

Yes the French approach to alcohol, starting from a young age with low strength at meal time seems to work well.
It pays dividends as they enjoy it with meals without the need to get " bladderd ".
Unfortunately the younger generation seems to view recreational drug use as acceptable.
And as long as there's a customer someone will smuggle it in leading to incidents like Venezuela.

 

[John Gryphon]

someone will smuggle it in

and thus become targets themselves instead of clogging the system