Which Habrok did you buy?

I brought the £1000 ones 25's i think. I'm very pleased with them. There are clearly similar and better out there. For my budget these are great. Its a three in one device. The 4k optical day lense isn't as good a decent pair of binos but very close. They recently leased a software update for image stabilisation and this has made an improvement, especially when zoomed in. I did the update last week and was very pleased with it.

The range finder is accurate. Their thermal is awful during the day, but once it turns dark its really good. If you don't have a big budget you won't be disappointed.
 
Back to the drawing board.
Ideally that would be a new model in the future for the HQ35L...
Exactly what I am waiting for.

HQ35PRO, with 4K optical channel and image stabilisation.


Current price for HQ50PRO is 3999€, so HQ35PRO should be 3499€ or less.
 
It's not the light level that makes the difference, it's the range in temperature of the objects viewed.
A muntjac on a cold night stands out but on a hot day when temperatures are similar to body heat, the muntjac would not have such a bright image.
 
It's not the light level that makes the difference, it's the range in temperature of the objects viewed.
A muntjac on a cold night stands out but on a hot day when temperatures are similar to body heat, the muntjac would not have such a bright image.
That's as I understand it, maybe I misunderstood what the other poster was getting at... 🤷‍♂️
 
HE25L here. They're brilliant. Quickly sold my Pulsar spotter, even though it was technically better.

I'm now much more comfortable carrying less kit, and the thermal is plenty good enough for stalking. I don't even mind the base mag in the woods.

The new image stabilisation is the business. My understanding was that it works on every level above base mag.

Regarding the thermal in the day when everything is warm, I do find the thermal can be a bit "sea of grey" right up until you find a nice warm deer and then the software seems to go "oh yes, that's definitely hot" and then the software does it's business and you can clearly see everything. It's like it needs that reference of something with a clear difference in temp.

My old pulsar did the same but with the pulsar, the "sea of grey" made it hard to actually work out where the deer you'd spotted actually was in the real world. No such issue with the Habrok as you just switch to optical and it's right where you left it.

I'm never going back to a thermal spotter.
 
Been looking at the Netd rating of the habrok 25mm compared to my current thermal kit.
Habrok 25mm shows 35 Netd, my Pulsar XP50 trail 2 scope and Helion 2 spotter have a rating of 40 Netd.
So it seems even the base model Habrok should pick up heat signatures slightly better.
Not sure about the pixel rate referred to or the impact when looking through them all.
Anyone in the OX7 area with habrok 25 or 50s that I could look through, get in touch please.
 
Regarding the thermal in the day when everything is warm, I do find the thermal can be a bit "sea of grey" right up until you find a nice warm deer and then the software seems to go "oh yes, that's definitely hot" and then the software does it's business and you can clearly see everything. It's like it needs that reference of something with a clear difference in temp.

I saw a video where a chap was using one of the other "lower spec" Hik thermals, and he demonstrated that it seems to take a second or two to "process" the thermal image. Scanning slowly with constant movement did produce that very grey image, but stopping and looking at a section at a time worked better...

No idea if you'd find similar with the Habrok....


I'm very close to making a decision to buy a set of HE25L for all the other reasons you state 👍🏻
 
Been looking at the Netd rating of the habrok 25mm compared to my current thermal kit.
Habrok 25mm shows 35 Netd, my Pulsar XP50 trail 2 scope and Helion 2 spotter have a rating of 40 Netd.
So it seems even the base model Habrok should pick up heat signatures slightly better.
Not sure about the pixel rate referred to or the impact when looking through them all.
Anyone in the OX7 area with habrok 25 or 50s that I could look through, get in touch please.
Be very wary of this aspect (as I suspect @mealiejimmy will advise) as there is no common standard of thermal sensitivity and some manufacturer's claims will be more genuine than others. The other day in thick clag my HE25L's were useless but my Telos XP50's were still working well enough to identify deer.
 
Be very wary of this aspect (as I suspect @mealiejimmy will advise) as there is no common standard of thermal sensitivity and some manufacturer's claims will be more genuine than others. The other day in thick clag my HE25L's were useless but my Telos XP50's were still working well enough to identify deer.
By climate often what do you mean? Humidity, rain and fog? thanks
 
I read conflicting reviews between the link posted above and this thread, what is it I missed? I ask you in good faith because I would like to buy it Thanks
 
I read conflicting reviews between the link posted above and this thread, what is it I missed? I ask you in good faith because I would like to buy it Thanks
The HE25L are 256 resolution with a 25mm focal length lens. They are very low quality in terms of thermal image. The price of them reflects this at at £1199 for thermal. optical, LRF and IR you cannot expect anymore..If you want purely thermal, a Lynx 2.0 19mm or 25mm would be a much better option
 
The HE25L are 256 resolution with a 25mm focal length lens. They are very low quality in terms of thermal image. The price of them reflects this at at £1199 for thermal. optical, LRF and IR you cannot expect anymore..If you want purely thermal, a Lynx 2.0 19mm or 25mm would be a much better option
perfect, thanks. For recreational Stalking, a couple of outings a week especially wild boars do you think it could be suitable? Land with a maximum view of about 500 meters mixed with some hedges? I had already put a Linx H25 2.0 in the possibilities but the novelty of the multichannels had reopened the choice, I will use it with a Zulus5/20 R that I got from you any info is welcome
 
perfect, thanks. For recreational Stalking, a couple of outings a week especially wild boars do you think it could be suitable? Land with a maximum view of about 500 meters mixed with some hedges? I had already put a Linx H25 2.0 in the possibilities but the novelty of the multichannels had reopened the choice, I will use it with a Zulus5/20 R that I got from you any info is welcome
I have no issues seeing heat in woodlands, and determining it is a deer/squirrel/bird.

In open ground, even easier. I've tested it on people golfing 1000m away. It sees the heat, and you can tell what it is from movement. Switch to optical though and it's clear ID.

Basically the thermal is "good enough" for finding and basic ID of species. The optical does the rest
 
In the “perfect” thermal conditions that prevailed yesterday, I re-tried the HE25L’s on getting back to the car at LL +1 having blanked. I was pleasantly surprised by the thermal quality coupled with the 4K optical with and without the IR. I regretted not taking them with me for the last stalk yesterday.
 
perfect, thanks. For recreational Stalking, a couple of outings a week especially wild boars do you think it could be suitable? Land with a maximum view of about 500 meters mixed with some hedges? I had already put a Linx H25 2.0 in the possibilities but the novelty of the multichannels had reopened the choice, I will use it with a Zulus5/20 R that I got from you any info is welcome
The hik HE25L will do all you need.
 
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