Why has the UK adopted a 'killjoy' mentality?

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caberslash

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Hi all,

I got thinking (very dangerous, I know!) having stumbled upon this article: Blackpool to clamp down on adult entertainment venues to boost family appeal

For those who don't wish to read a BBC article, I'll include a snippet:

"We are a family town and some of the things that have gone on are not according to the rules," the licensing chair councillor Adrian Hutton said.

He said limiting the venues would also be more in keeping with Blackpool's accreditation from the White Ribbon UK, a charity aiming to end violence against women.

"We're not against people coming to Blackpool and having a good time, but there is an element that causes problems and this is a way to reduce that," he said.


Now, if his suggestion regarding accreditation from White Ribbon UK was shown to have a positive effect for everyone involved, I'd be all for it.

However, I do wonder if Mr.Hutton has bothered to visit said venues of ill repute to talk to Andy the Doorman, Mel the Bartender and Bruce Isabella the Dancer?

Who knows, by doing so and letting his proverbial hair down, he might see a different side to things and possibly expand his horizons... ;)

Telling the proprietors and employees of an already hard-hit nightlife industry that their business and jobs could be forfeit simply because it is not to the taste of some does not sit well with me.

Not to mention the fact that the concept of 'licensing' readily gives authorities the ability to either revoke or refuse to renew it at their discretion.

Having at first been slightly ambivalent to the announcement of grouse moor licensing, this put things in perspective for me.

Beware, if you suddenly find your employment deemed 'undesirable' by those in power.
 

Tf223

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Agreed: the licensing of which is designed to protect children from sexual imagery, women from harm etc. If they aren’t playing by the somewhat dated laws, then there’s more harm done keeping them open then closing them
 

Freeforester

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Forgive me for asking, but isn't it the case that countries which have more relaxed/liberal attitudes toward adult entertainment have a correspondingly lower rate of sexual violence against women? I think it is said it acts as a "release" rather than building up such tensions and frustrations, and is seen as a better alternaive to the repression and thus build-up of such feelings.

I think there was an experiment somewhere in a prison where soft porn was cabled direct to the inmates tv's, apparently one of the 'outcomes' 😳 was a reduction in violence.

There are also numerous instances of sexual crimes being committed around the time of the height of the roe rut, the Soham murders being a case in point.
 

josh3105

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Forgive me for asking, but isn't it the case that countries which have more relaxed/liberal attitudes toward adult entertainment have a correspondingly lower rate of sexual violence against women? I think it is said it acts as a "release" rather than building up such tensions and frustrations, and is seen as a better alternaive to the repression and thus build-up of such feelings.
Not to mention the fact that instead of pushing the business underground the employer is then bound by law to provide a level of rights and responsibilities to the predominantly female workforce. If it is correctly regulated and enforced (think of CSCS cards but for working in these places) then human trafficking and sexual abuse can be heavily mitigated giving the customer,worker and employer peace of mind
 

caberslash

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Forgive me for asking, but isn't it the case that countries which have more relaxed/liberal attitudes toward adult entertainment have a correspondingly lower rate of sexual violence against women? I think it is said it acts as a "release" rather than building up such tensions and frustrations, and is seen as a better alternaive to the repression and thus build-up of such feelings.

I think there was an experiment somewhere in a prison where soft porn was cabled direct to the inmates tv's, apparently one of the 'outcomes' 😳 was a reduction in violence.

There are also numerous instances of sexual crimes being committed around the time of the height of the roe rut, the Soham murders being a case in point.

Interesting fact is that Labour, despite branding itself as a party which is pro-union and a bastion for those of progressive attitudes and free thought, is actually very much against such ideas: Labour MP tables controversial bill to criminalise buying sex. Sex workers say it would put their lives in danger

The Blackpool Councillor quoted above is also a Labour Party representative: Councillor details - Councillor Adrian Hutton

Not to mention the fact that instead of pushing the business underground the employer is then bound by law to provide a level of rights and responsibilities to the predominantly female workforce. If it is correctly regulated and enforced (think of CSCS cards but for working in these places) then human trafficking and sexual abuse can be heavily mitigated giving the customer,worker and employer peace of mind

@josh3105 , agreed, but with the current 'ban/cancel/silence everything and anyone you don't agree with' zeitgeist, it's difficult to suggest such changes, let alone get them passed as law.

Perhaps our current prime minister, being somewhat promiscuous and self-confessed 'good-times' man, might just be the voice of reason.



Never thought I would say that... :lol:
 

GIMLET61

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Blackpool was always families in the daytime and early evening, adults play time at night.
What's going to happen when everything is controlled to such a degree that we will be unable to have fun?
Anyone remember Logan's run?
One thing, once BP is sanitised to be only family orientated, those bad tattoo parlours will not keep going!
 
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