Why shoot the foxes?

AlexD

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Of course, if you keep chickens or pheasants, you need to eliminate foxes.

However, on arable farmland where I manage the wildlife, we had got to the point where there is a beautiful harmony with rabbits and mice kept down to numbers that do minimal crop damage because there is a rich array of predators: stoats, foxes, both barn and tawny owls, as well as buzzards and other birds of prey. Deer numbers have been brought down low enough that the trees surrounding the fields and the plants in the margins are their food, rather than the crop, whilst still giving new deer each year for the freezer. The bucks are all great, as the rifle does the genetic selection. It has become a wild life reserve, where the crop is untouched and all the mammals we have in the UK are in a harmonic balance: nature at its best.

Then someone comes along, unauthorised, on a motorbike with number plate obscured, with rifle exposed on his back, dressed in black, complete with balaclava, and shoots the vixens. So her cubs will starve, and rabbits will increase. The tool keeps on doing it, usually Saturday nights.

What is it about foxes that drive people to takes risks like this? Any ideas on how to prevent it?

NB: Police have been out a few times, farmland is easy to escape from. Residents now call me if they see things going on, but they are not out in the middle of night. They find the remains of the foxes the next day or so. I do a patrol at night, which helps in my mind, but I then go back to bed.
 
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Of course, if you keep chickens or pheasants, you need to eliminate foxes.

However, on arable farmland where I manage the wildlife, we had got to the point where there is a beautiful harmony with rabbits and mice kept down to numbers that do minimal crop damage because there is a rich array of predators: stoats, foxes, both barn and tawny owls, as well as buzzards and other birds of prey. Deer numbers have been brought down low enough that the trees surrounding the fields and the plants in the margins are their food, rather than the crop, whilst still giving new deer each year for the freezer. The bucks are all great, as the rifle does the genetic selection. It has become a wild life reserve, where the crop is untouched and all the mammals we have in the UK abound in harmony: nature at its best.

Then someone comes along, unauthorised, on a motorbike with number plate obscured, with rifle exposed on his back, dressed in black, complete with balaclava, and shoots the vixens. So her cubs will starve, and rabbits will increase. The tool keeps on doing it, usually Saturday nights.

What is it about foxes that drive people to takes risks like this? Any ideas on how to prevent it?
How to prevent it….. try ringing the police and describe the armed trespass that is occurring would be my suggestion. Others might have better solutions.
 
Shoot the vixen in the spring/early summer and the cubs will go wild killing lambs, out of frustration or anger. They go on a killing spree.

Completely separate to that - it is simply bizarre to act like what you describe. Someone very local as chancing a long drive like that is not going to happen many times.

Print and post in the local supermarkets, someone will recognise him. And whoever takes the posters down is either the culprit or his mother.

Contact the police, but they won’t sit out and wait for him 😂

I don’t shoot many foxes either. I’ll take the odd one when stalking and if it’s looking a bit ragged or if it’s too close to the farm/lambs..but I enjoy the healthy foxes basking in the sun or seeing the cubs hop about and play in the summer grass - if we believe every fox, rabbit and deer we see should be shot, we are the ones who have no place in the countryside.
 
Print and post in the local supermarkets, someone will recognise him. And whoever takes the posters down is either the culprit or his mother.
That is so tempting ... with the number of anti-socials around, we could have a wall of photos.

Nickb: 👍Curlews, Lapwing , Skylark and Grey Partridge for starters.
Good point. There are some lapwing and nesting ducks + geese here, who seem not to be bothered by the foxes, but not seem many skylarks. Really surprising the fox is not eating the geese eggs, as they nest on the bank of the pond/lochan.
 
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"Print and post in the local supermarkets, someone will recognise him. And whoever takes the posters down is either the culprit or his mother.000

That is so tempting ... with the number of anti-socials around, we could have a wall of photos.
Do it, you’d be surprised, someone will say - oh wait, that’s Johnny McFlanagan’s kid, I recognise that bike!

Or it might turn out to be a gangster granny - could even turn out to be the farmers young daughter who keeps the bike in the shed under a tarp, and because you don’t shoot foxes they came and killed her pet chickens!!!

I see a mystery unfolding..
 
Sounds like a devoted conservationist to me.
I used to think the title of the BSAC rag, "Shooting and Conservation", was an ironic joke, but over years got to appreciate the well managed shooting is an excellent conservation measure and is a privilege to be part of.

A grouse moor has different objectives to arable farming, but both environments are teaming with wildlife when managed properly.

Take the wildlife management away, (i.e. stop the shooting & trapping), or allow a free-for-all of shooting, then the wildlife plummets.
 
I used to think the title of the BSAC rag, "Shooting and Conservation", was an ironic joke, but over years got to appreciate the well managed shooting is an excellent conservation measure and is a privilege to be part of.

A grouse moor has different objectives to arable farming, but both environments are teaming with wildlife when managed properly.

Take the wildlife management away, (i.e. stop the shooting & trapping), or allow a free-for-all of shooting, then the wildlife plummets.
I joke (far too often, but then events all too often require this particular item of humour) nothing conserves more game than my poor shooting. I fear the terribleness of that joke has cost me at least one repeat invitation (though other factors may conceivably have been involved).
 
It's not the foxs on my permissions it's the badgers.we had lots of curluws.lap wings etc.hedgehogs are none existent.they do far more damage than any fox can
Yes. Sometimes it feels pointless keeping the foxes down when all it does is leave the badgers more to snaffle up. But the badger population doesn't seem to grow much locally, whereas the new foxes are coming in all the time so I keep at it.
 
It must be someone very local, and probably a neighbour, I couldn't see someone so desperate to shoot a fox that they would risk the fac being revoked if caught... that is unless it's someone with an old .22lr off ticket and they don't give a monkeys.
Set some trail cameras up if it's a regular Saturday night occurrence.. I'm sure you may have an idea who it could be.
 
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