Zeiss Conquest V4 6-24x50 ASV Illuminated Rifle Scope (any good?)

[Tulloch]

Too long, obstructive target turrets, too high mag and parallax adjustment.
Non of the above are favorable features for a stalking scope. Less is more on a stalking scope.
Unless you regularly shoot your deer beyond 300 meters. But this qualifies as target shooting in my eyes.

For stalking I use the scope between 8 and 12 mag unless I am shooting over 300 which I do have to do.

I manage mostly woodland and the Zeiss V4 has done everything I have asked for it. Yes it's medium level low light capability but still claim 90% which is actually quite high end as some more expensive scopes can't compete.

The locking turret helps too meaning you have less restriction setting your dope to 200 but zeroing at 100 for instance meaning you are not just guessing with hold overs. Means you can set your scope to 200 before going on the hill and then without referring you can click it back to normal when you get home for your normal day to day shooting.

The high mag helps with a more accurate zero also instead of struggling to get dead zero at 100 with a 8x or even 6x.

I agree though fixed power scopes are better for stalking BUT if your shooting is more than stalking and you wanna do more than just take your rifle out a couple of times a year to shoot for the freezer then a more versatile scope is more useful.

It's horses for courses. Weigh up what you want with budget in mind and go for there.

There's a great fascination about glass and the snobbery that comes with it, once you wade through all that bull you find yourself opening up to other possibilities.

My longest deer kill is still with a Swarivski Habicht 6x42 at over 558yrds but like everyone else my average is around 250yrds I shoot every single day and right now every night. The Zeiss V4 has worked without fail along with the V6 I have on the 6 5 I have no actual complaints about either as I said I have not lost zero in years.

 

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I have the 4-16x50 ASV V4 and find it a perfectly good scope for stalking.

 

[hybridfiat]

Too long, obstructive target turrets, too high mag and parallax adjustment.
Non of the above are favorable features for a stalking scope. Less is more on a stalking scope.
Unless you regularly shoot your deer beyond 300 meters. But this qualifies as target shooting in my eyes.

As an owner of the above I wholeheartedly agree.
All my dedicated hunting rifles have fixed power scopes now.
I've sold all 4 variables bar 1 (the Zeiss).

 

[Steff]

As an owner of the above I wholeheartedly agree.
All my dedicated hunting rifles have fixed power scopes now.
I've sold all 4 variables bar 1 (the Zeiss).

Well, fixed mag is the other extreme. But I‘m sure I could get along with a fixed 8x. In fact have done so when I started.
Now I prefer 2.5-10 or 3-12x.

 

[Tikkat1x]

Should have a poll thread to decide your breakfast, oats/cereal or porridge?

Go to a dealer and have a look in person.

not quite as simple as that im afraid, local ish shop sells wulf and hawke scopes only, next local ish shop over an hour away sells nothing under £3000,
and id rather get the advise and thought of people who use or have knowledge of the scopes rather than the man in the shop who wants to sell me something, and going into a shop and looking through a few scope is not really going to tell me much stood at his door looking over the road and shops , and i have my breakfast down, tea and toast always

 

[Tikkat1x]

i think somewhere iv fallen into the trap of thinking more is better, id generally find a rabbit and just crank the mag up full, but today i had one 200 yard away and viewed it at 6-8 power and it was more that plenty to see what i was doing, better picture and FOV, i think its when i first got my rimfires i was at the indoor 100m range and i was wanting the closed view of the targets and where the bullets had hit, i guess i need to get that out of my head,
another reason why this is a great site for learners like me

 

[Steff]

i think somewhere iv fallen into the trap of thinking more is better, id generally find a rabbit and just crank the mag up full, but today i had one 200 yard away and viewed it at 6-8 power and it was more that plenty to see what i was doing, better picture and FOV, i think its when i first got my rimfires i was at the indoor 100m range and i was wanting the closed view of the targets and where the bullets had hit, i guess i need to get that out of my head,
another reason why this is a great site for learners like me

You‘re wising up a lot faster than most people. The quality of the image and the design of the reticle are far more important than the magnification (within limits of course).
I can see and shoot small targets better with my 30 year old Zeiss Diavari-C 3-9x36 than with most of the high mag crap which is hyped on this forum. It‘s the combination of a first class image and a real Duplex reticle. The subtension of the cross hairs diminishes into zero in the very centre.

 

[Tikkat1x]

For stalking I use the scope between 8 and 12 mag unless I am shooting over 300 which I do have to do.

I manage mostly woodland and the Zeiss V4 has done everything I have asked for it. Yes it's medium level low light capability but still claim 90% which is actually quite high end as some more expensive scopes can't compete.

The locking turret helps too meaning you have less restriction setting your dope to 200 but zeroing at 100 for instance meaning you are not just guessing with hold overs. Means you can set your scope to 200 before going on the hill and then without referring you can click it back to normal when you get home for your normal day to day shooting.

The high mag helps with a more accurate zero also instead of struggling to get dead zero at 100 with a 8x or even 6x.

I agree though fixed power scopes are better for stalking BUT if your shooting is more than stalking and you wanna do more than just take your rifle out a couple of times a year to shoot for the freezer then a more versatile scope is more useful.

It's horses for courses. Weigh up what you want with budget in mind and go for there.

There's a great fascination about glass and the snobbery that comes with it, once you wade through all that bull you find yourself opening up to other possibilities.

My longest deer kill is still with a Swarivski Habicht 6x42 at over 558yrds but like everyone else my average is around 250yrds I shoot every single day and right now every night. The Zeiss V4 has worked without fail along with the V6 I have on the 6 5 I have no actual complaints about either as I said I have not lost zero in years.

great reply mate, thanks, i do think there is a lot of scope snobbery about, not on this thread though, for me paying thousands of pounds on a scope seems outrageous for what i use it for anyway, sure there better quality and better glass but iv always used hawke sidewinder scopes and iv never had a problem or been held back buy them, i guess if its your job or you have **** loads of money then its ok, im no peasant but i dont buy things for no good reason, mate of mine who has a fancy nightforce recons if its not nightforce then its ****, as with most things in life, there will always be something better, the line must be drawn somewhere

 

[User00040]

great reply mate, thanks, i do think there is a lot of scope snobbery about, not on this thread though, for me paying thousands of pounds on a scope seems outrageous for what i use it for anyway, sure there better quality and better glass but iv always used hawke sidewinder scopes and iv never had a problem or been held back buy them, i guess if its your job or you have **** loads of money then its ok, im no peasant but i dont buy things for no good reason, mate of mine who has a fancy nightforce recons if its not nightforce then its ****, as with most things in life, there will always be something better, the line must be drawn somewhere

Be careful buying a Nightforce, especially used.

The NXS model has had several revisions, some of them are over a decade old now.

Personally would not buy an NXS unless it was boxed with sunshade, first focal plane, had illumination, ZeroStop and well under £1k (most are well above due to the name alone.)

 

[Tulloch]

We think about scopes in strange ways in this country. We have this belief we shoot to the limit of our scope so we pay for the best and brightest and usually the most expensive. What we don't realise is most of us buy scopes that can shoot far beyond the limit of the shooters.

Let me explain.

No matter what scope you buy in whatever magnification you always will need to know the basic fundamentals before shooting to the capability of the rifle and scope beyond the 200 mark. No shot is truly point and click past 200yrds the variables don't allow it even if you zero your rifle at 200 your arc of travel will mean you have to think about close shots and in-between distances. You also need to know the speed and bc of your round at muzzle not what the box says. You need to know and understand quite a bit before accurately taking those long shots.

Many of us choose scopes and don't fully understand what features are on it like the difference between MOA and MRAD or what each click of the turret means and why it is important to have a turret that matches the reticle, or the benefit of thicker or lighter crosshairs within different conditions.

When choosing a scope think about the following factors

1 what are you shooting? Is it live quarry or tatgets or do you need something that can do both.

2. Where are you shooting and at what distance?

3 the calibre and rifle your putting it on? In many cases there is no point putting a 24x mag scope on a .22lr if your popping bunnies at 50yrds, in fact my .22lrs have fixed 7x50 scopes on them.

4. Your own knowledge and what you want to learn? If your only ever going to be going for the odd stalk here and there your not going to need a fancy Swaro or S&B.

5. Probably the most important factor, your budget? Scope prices have went through the roof, when I bought the V4 it was £450 brand new, in fact after my review the local gunshop couldn't keep enough stock in BUT now the price is £1200 in places albeit slightly updated version with a different designed turret.

6. Then look at how you shoot, eye relief, length and weight of scope, what extras do you need to buy? What scope rings do you currently have? Is your current scope 25mm or 30mm tube? Are you on optilocks or a rail? All this adds into the cost. Something people don't think about until after they buy a scope.

Understanding some of these factors you need to understand and know before investing is important and yes its important to take advice but remember that advice suits them might not suit you. I have spent a lot of time around people that run Z6i and Z8 Swaros and they swear buy them but in the end I have never been able to afford it but in the end would that make shooting any easier absolutely not as someone who shoots a lot it would only make a difference to my income not my shooting.

I hope this helps

 

[Tikkat1x]

nice one mate, great write up, i do agree i and probably many others do overthink scope, despite me wanting, not needing another scope i do always think " why am i bothering" when i know that for now im perfectly happy with what iv got, i think with me sometimes its just the want for the sake of wanting now if my scope was bust or something then id obviously have to get another, but for now its ok, but i guess its also to get peoples opinions for when i do get one, only last night i spent 3 hours reading up and watching reviews on the vortex strike eagle and the viper PST gen ll, i guess wanting is cheaper than buying

 

[Tulloch]

Check out a review I done on the V4 4 years ago