Ex-army boots - Haix Vs Alltberg

Feugh

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After all of the chat on this forum about two years ago regarding how good the ex-army boots are, I bought a set of the Alltberg Defenders as back-up pair to my usual ones. I didn’t know which to buy, Haix or Alltberg, so I plumped for the ones that I thought looked nicer. In the two years since I’ve worn down the soles to the extent that it was time for either a resole or a new pair, and since they’re so cheap this time I bought a set of Haix hi-liability ones. Since there are many boot questions generally and questions about these boots in particular, I thought that I’d write a post about my impressions and someone may find it useful.
My “good” boots, which I wear for the majority of my stalking and hill walking, are a set of Meindl Burma Pro and I really like them. The ex-army boots are worn for general messing around outside, gardening, rabbit shooting, etc.

Cost
I got the Alltbergs direct from http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk/, grade 1, for £50. They had been worn but obviously not much, and they were in very good condition. The Haix boots came from an ebay shop which turned out to be http://www.fieldtextiles.co.uk/; these cost me only £30 and were unworn. Bargain!

Fit
I take a size 10.5 shoe and always wear an 11 boot. Both of these boots fit me perfectly in a size 11. The Haix boots come in two width fittings – normal and wide. I got the normal and despite having relatively broad feet across the forefoot this width fitting is fine. Straight out of the box I found the Haix a better fit – the Alltbergs were not completely comfortable where the leather creases across the toe box, but as the leather softened they became more comfortable. I find the Haix boots slightly stiffer and feel that they provide much better support.

Lacing System
I only mention this because the Haix system is different to any other boots I’ve worn. Usually boots have eyelets for the first few holes up from the toes and then toggles thereafter (the Alltbergs only have three toggles and I would find it better if they had more, much like Meindl boots). The Haix boots have speed-lacing eyelets all of the way up, but half way up the eyelets lock down so that once you have tightened the first few holes they don’t loosen again until you unlock those eyelets. I didn’t think that I’d like it but I really do; getting the boots on in a hurry is easy, and I prefer the Haix lacing system to the Alltberg.

Aesthetics
I think the Alltbergs look better and actually find the Haix boots a bit ugly, but I prefer function over form so it doesn’t bother me much. It’s the fact that the laces start so high up that I think makes the Haix boots harder on the eye – the big toe box make them look a bit like clown shoes, especially in the larger sizes, but having the laces start so high up probably also means that leakages are less likely. The Haix boots have a brown rubber rand right around the boots are partially over the toe caps, so wading through stubble fields or heather doesn’t wreck the toes to the same extent.

Waterproofing
I have no problems with either, although the Alltbergs get slightly damp if they’re sodden for a long time. I had my doubts about the Haix because they are partially fabric, but so far they have been great (wading through puddles that come almost to the top of the boot).

Overall
As a cheap second pair of boots you can’t really go wrong with either of these but I prefer the Haix boots. I would have never worn the Alltbergs out hill stalking for reds because I didn’t feel that they provided enough support but I would wear the Haix. Yes, they’re not the prettiest but that doesn’t bother me and I’m really happy with the Haix boots so far.
 
That is good review, thank you.

I bought a pair of the extreme cold weather condition ex army boots...maker unknown, to alternate with my Meindl Dovres. From the British military surplus site you list for around £60 brand new. Reasonably comfortable and the support is almost equal to the Meindl's. They have been fine for beating...but they squeak something awful...much too noisy for stalking.

I am am still trying different waxes/waterproofers to resolve the squeak.

Alan
 
I recently spent £55 on Haix boots and am really pleased with them after hammering them beating for 13 days, comfortable and dry so far.
 
great review!
I've got a pair of the Altberg Defenders and love them, comfy and tough. I use Ledergris for waterproofing, good stuff it is too, and they dry out pretty quick if they get really sodden and for totally dry feet I wear sealskins socks (army surplus again).
 
Great review, thanks for the heads up. I use a pair of ex military Karrimore's, following the advice of my stalking buddy and think they are the mutts nuts. I looked at the Altbergs as an alternative, which are cheaper than Karrimore but canot fault my Karrimore choice.
 
I wear altberg every day although they are the field and fell. They took a while to break in but they are cracking and keep me dry in all weather. I did need a size up though.
Great review!
 
The Haix might be ok for lowland use, but they are no use for mountains and certainly don't keep the water out after a day on the hill.
Just my opinion but I find Meindle Glockners are far superior.
Cheers MW3
 
I've got the Haix but not sounding like same model as yours Doug .....

Although I'm delighted with mine had them year maybe two now .
Have to have a go at the rabbits and compare over a coffee alfresco on the firebox

If you have bit of fabric in them ......give em a spray with a Diver Dave Repel for added waterproofing......bring em round I'll give em a spray with what I have

Paul
 
The Haix might be ok for lowland use, but they are no use for mountains and certainly don't keep the water out after a day on the hill.
Just my opinion but I find Meindle Glockners are far superior.
Cheers MW3

I think you must have a different model of Haix than what I have.
 
The Haix might be ok for lowland use, but they are no use for mountains and certainly don't keep the water out after a day on the hill.
Just my opinion but I find Meindle Glockners are far superior.
Cheers MW3

There's no doubt that Meindl's are great boots, I've had several pairs since I first used them in 1989 and have never been unhappy with them. I would also completely agree with you regarding the Altberg's - I only used them for lowland use and didn't think that they were up to a day out on the hill (although people with ankles more robust than mine would maybe be fine). It's early days for me with the Haix but they do seem a better, tougher and more stable boot than the Altbergs, and I'll keep testing them before making my mind up about taking them out for harder use.
For the elimination of doubt, the Haix that I bought are the same as the ones in this advert (although this is not the ebay shop that I used; I used "katrinasarmedforces", which I mentioned before is Field Textiles Ltd):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haix-High...388491?hash=item2cb2075ecb:g:wbEAAOSwT6pVu0Gz
 
I've been wearing Altberg defenders for 18 months now in all weathers over very mixed terrain and conditions. They have never once let damp through at all, despite not being marketed as waterproof, and despite on several occasions been given a prolonged soaking on some very damp weather in long grass, and trodden through streams to ankle depth and through mud. They stayed absolutely bone dry. I treat them before every outing with Ledergris and this is essential to keep the leather supple and waterproof. I have used them on hills, and they supply adequate ankle support if laced up correctly. Lace them too loose at the top and the deep cushioning, whilst very commfy and welcome, doesn't provide as much ankle support as some but its way more than adequate to prevent a sprain injury if laced properly.

The only annoyance with my pair is that the rand could be higher at the front to prevent scuffing, plus they have developed a squeak in one boot when walking! However, on the whole, they are one of the best all round boots, irrespective of cost, that I've ever owned. The only boots that I own that better them are my Altberg Tethra boots from the same manufacturer. Defenders are not as plentiful on the used marker as they were a year or two back, bit for anyone wanting a really good all round shooting and stalking boot for pin-money that will last years and keep your feet warm and dry, the Altberg Defenders take some beating without having to spend a fortune.
 
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Based on past posts on ex-army boots I purchased a pair of new ECW Gortex cold weather boots last year and for the £50 price have been very pleased with them. They handled a week on the hill last January with conditions from -12 to a rapid thaw, slush and sodden ground with ease, remaining 100% dry.

I remain well impressed with them, will buy them again and am happy to recommend.
 
Haix cold weather ones for me ,my mate wont go past them for value .I was about to buy another pair of Diotti's at 180 and bought the Haix for 80 so time will tell.
 
After reading Feugh post on Haix boots, I bought a pair from field textiles. They were sent next day delivery.
But I wasn't happy about the boots that I received, but I phoned them , to say about the wear In one boot.
I spoke to zoe, she was extremely helpful. To say the least !!, I sent Zoe a picture of the wear In the boot.
Within 20 minutes, of correspondence, It was all sorted . They sent me another pair of boots, the next day, they look.brand new. And also to keep the previous boots.
Customer service Is second to none.
 
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