Airgun laws (ammunition and declaration of weapon)

[TOMMO.B]

I went down the FAC route when I got my air rifle a few years ago. Glad I did. If you have an airgun and an FAC license I would consider getting your airgun tuned to FAC levels.

Very True. Do you think i will get there with an OX spring and two washers like the good old days.
I would have sworn that my Webley Vulcan would have shot through breeze block nae bother and car doors. Ah childhood memories.

 

[Crow Man]

What's the penalty for get caught with an unlicensed a Airgun in Scotland? Is it the same as an unlicensed firearm?
im sure there will be plenty stuck in a cupboard or under the bed.

 

[Ranger22]

Very True. Do you think i will get there with an OX spring and two washers like the good old days.
I would have sworn that my Webley Vulcan would have shot through breeze block nae bother and car doors. Ah childhood memories.

Vulcan, one of my first air guns as a boy too. Oh there's easier ways than washers if it's a .22

 

[TOMMO.B]

Vulcan, one of my first air guns as a boy too. Oh there's easier ways than washers if it's a .22

Yes sir there sure is. but that story is for another day

 

[mr smith]

I upped the power of my HW80 and put it on my FAC.

 

[mealiejimmy]

What's the penalty for get caught with an unlicensed a Airgun in Scotland? Is it the same as an unlicensed firearm?
im sure there will be plenty stuck in a cupboard or under the bed.

Up to 2 years in prison and/or a fine (don't know what the maximum fine would be)

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Crow Man]

Up to 2 years in prison and/or a fine (don't know what the maximum fine would be)

Cheers

Bruce

 

[VSS]

I don't know how easy it is get get an open certificate in Scotland for a rimfire, but the advantage of an air rifle for vermin control is you can use it in barns and other buildings controlling rats without fear of ricochet.
Also you can buy 500 pellets for less than 50 .22LR subsonics.

Don't know where you get the idea that an air rifle pellet won't ricochet
Guess you maybe haven't actually used one inside a building as you suggest...?
Granted not as dangerous as a rimfire, but painful all the same and a serious risk to eyesight.

 

[Glevum]

I have shot rats in barns.

 

[muddy42]

I look forward to views from the first people to be affected on FAC renewal with air rifles and pistols?

 

[lambic]

No problems with FAC Air. Pointless owning sub 12 ft-lb now in Scotland. I buy .25 pellets on eBay for 30 ft-lb Theoben Eliminator. Local police said pellets are not ammunition as no energy source. No need to store them in the safe or declare them.

Can only assume the same for sub 12ftlb

 

[greville1689]

I will be coming back to Scotland in the summer and have a FAC and SGC (N Yorks Police). I also have a .22 air rifle. Obviously I will need to transfer FAC and SGC when I move, but what will I need to do for the air rifle?

 

[lambic]

Honestly...sell the air rifle before you head north. More demand south of the border for pea shooters.

You would lose money on it if you converted it to FAC.

Then buy a new FAC Air in Scotland once you get a slot on your ticket.

Or alternatively not bother with them at all, my FAC Air is significantly more difficult to get decent groups with than 270, 22-250 or 22LR. Makes a good club though.

 

[Ranger22]

Honestly...sell the air rifle before you head north. More demand south of the border for pea shooters.

You would lose money on it if you converted it to FAC.

Then buy a new FAC Air in Scotland once you get a slot on your ticket.

Or alternatively not bother with them at all, my FAC Air is significantly more difficult to get decent groups with than 270, 22-250 or 22LR. Makes a good club though.

should of bought a decent air gun! My T10 34ft/lb is pellet on pellet out to 50 yards, groups open up after that. Tried it at 100 yards and it's just over an inch. I use FAC defiant pellets, hard to get now as the company sold out

 

[lambic]

Used to have a Kalibrgun Cricket .25 which was very good, more accurate than my Rimfire and about 40ftlb. But sold it because it was PcP and just a bit dull. Also hassle of cylinders etc. Best pellets were Barracuda heavy.

So went retro with a gas ram Theoben for a laugh to use in the garden. Good fun but very humbling. Did some load development for 22-250 and got 0.4 inch groups at 100m. Went home and got a 2 inch group at 30m with the Eliminator.

 

[mealiejimmy]

I will be coming back to Scotland in the summer and have a FAC and SGC (N Yorks Police). I also have a .22 air rifle. Obviously I will need to transfer FAC and SGC when I move, but what will I need to do for the air rifle?[/QUOTE


As long as your residence is in Scotland you can keep and use your air rifle until your FAC/SGC expires (but you can't acquire any more air weapons) and there is no need to inform the police
When your FAC/SGC comes up for renewal you can decide whether or not you want an air weapons certificate - if you want one it will cost £5.
If you don't move your residence you will be considered a visitor and therefore will need a visitors permit for your air rifle - absolutely crazy of course but that's the SNP Government for you

Cheers

Bruce

 

[LuckyEddie]

As long as your residence is in Scotland you can keep and use your air rifle until your FAC/SGC expires (but you can't acquire any more air weapons) and there is no need to inform the police
When your FAC/SGC comes up for renewal you can decide whether or not you want an air weapons certificate - if you want one it will cost £5.

Cheers

Bruce

The daft thing is you go to England and buy a secondhand one and not declare it!
How are Police Scotland going to know how many you have before you need to renew yourSGC/FAC?

 

[mealiejimmy]

Absolutely, and it doesn't need to be a second hand one.
Someone residing in Scotland could walk into any gun shop in England and Wales and buy as many air weapons as they want and bring them back to Scotland and as long as they hold an FAC or SGC issued before 1st January 2017 then, unless you or the seller tell them, they won't know about it.

Cheers

Bruce

 

[lambic]

Common sense is not so common amongst the SNP

 

[bewsher500]

Sorry but the first few comments about control of pellet purchases concern me.
where are you getting this info?
i see no effort to control Scottish air gun owners purchasing pellets either online or over the counter

there has such a poor job in implementing this that the long speculation is becoming sold as fact.

as much as it's an ill thought out idea, costly and unenforceable
Other than the ridiculous charge, the actual mechanics are fairly straight forward.
you have an air rifle
you have a good reason
you buy a permit

if you have an FAC as most here do, you apply during the single or conterminous process of renewal (and only then) and it cost nothing like that much. A fiver to be precice!

i genuinely think the police are so sick of it and over worked in firearms departments that have no hope of processing it in time such that the dates have moved forwards several times already.

i look forward to the first test of a grandpa jones going through court after being found with a vintage air rifle under a bed he hadn't seen for 40 years.
hopefuly any decent lawyer will run a coach and horses through the fatuous "law" and the sudden criminalisation of something that could with no malice of forethought have been "lost" in a cupboard.
where it really goes off piste is when you start looking at wider "air powered" items like nail guns!
don't even get me into the details of how the varying energy levels of multiple airsoft gun designs will pose a huge issue

its ****ed