Holding of the rifle

Sad as it may sound, I really like the look of the ammo/knife belt combo there too... wish I could find one somewhere.....

Look at, http://www.murraycustomleather.com/belts.htm for cartridge belt. Naked woman costs extra.

Having read one of the testimonials on the website it's obvious why she has chosen to model that particular cartridge belt:

"............ If I had not been wearing one of your belts which is made of exceptional quality leather, the Buffalo`s horn would have penetrated my stomach and I would not be around to thank you."

The avoidance of penetration must have been a high priority! :coat:
 
Saying that, many true African hands, who have also been through bush wars etc always carry a fully loaded rifle and treat every rifle as loaded. They don't rely on mechanical safeties

Everybody should be handling firearms as if they were loaded
 
+ 1 to this.

In fact many moons ago I knew a PH whose DG double was built without a safety catch because "When I pull the trigger I really want it to go off"

David.
 
+ 1 to this.

In fact many moons ago I knew a PH whose DG double was built without a safety catch because "When I pull the trigger I really want it to go off"

David.

Makes sense really, albeit slightly scary
I was quite surprised (although on reflection shouldn't have been really) to discover my .375 double doesn't have an auto safety, thankfully realised before any mishaps but I guess when you reload in a hurry you do kinda want to point and fire, not fumble with a safety, I'm just so much more familiar with side by side shotguns with auto safety that I had just presumed......
 
A fiend bought a cheap 20 bore at a game fair once. It turns out the reason for it being cheap was it didn't have a safety catch. It would have cost him a fortune to fix.
 
Makes sense really, albeit slightly scary
I was quite surprised (although on reflection shouldn't have been really) to discover my .375 double doesn't have an auto safety, thankfully realised before any mishaps but I guess when you reload in a hurry you do kinda want to point and fire, not fumble with a safety, I'm just so much more familiar with side by side shotguns with auto safety that I had just presumed......

Entirely normal on a DG DR. My 500 has a non auto and specified this when built You don't want to fumble at a critical post reload moment, It also has what used to be called a W** (banned word!) safety to prevent native bearer accidently pushing it forward. It is the Rigby version where you have to push a button at same time as pushing it forward to disengage

Most DG DRs are also built non ejector as its one less thing to go wrong and also reduces chance of ejectors over riding case rim and jamming

Generally do see African carry on my trips although I do use a sling Only issue is if its carried for you this way often the blueing on the barrel wears off and you have a shiney silver patch. Some may like this as a bit of patina I don't so I carry the 500 myself and the bearer carries my underloaded bolt action 375 in a slip unless we following a wounded animal in which case its out of slip but sill underloaded

S
 
A fiend bought a cheap 20 bore at a game fair once. It turns out the reason for it being cheap was it didn't have a safety catch. It would have cost him a fortune to fix.

I have seen lots guns at clay grounds with no safety
Open = Safe
Closed = Not Safe

quite frankly if a client is pointing a gun in my direction I couldn't give a toss if its loaded or has a 17 stage safety.....they are getting a bollocking
 
Will have to agree


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Sad as it may sound, I really like the look of the ammo/knife belt combo there too... wish I could find one somewhere.....

Borrowed one of them when I was in South Africa :)
 
Seems like it's not only my daughter who is struggling to find suitable ladies stalking clothing. There must be a real shortage.
 
The African carry originated back in the halcyon days of hunting the dark continent when the hunters had gun bearers.
The gun bearer would walk in front of the hunter with the rifle muzzle forward over his shoulder.
When a shot was to be taken, the hunter would simply step forward and take the rifle with the stock and pistol grip already presented to him at shoulder height and immediately available.
 
They don't rely on mechanical safeties, instead safety is in the hands of the hunter and where the barrel is pointing. If you are in thick bush, pushing a wounded animal the danger from being squashed or eaten is a lot lot higher than the supposed danger of a ND, hence rifle is loaded and ready to go.

Yes. It's why the British kid got killed by the polar bear a few years back. The fellow student with the rifle cycled a whole five round magazine of live cartridges through the .30-06 bolt action rifle they'd been given and not one was fired at the bear, and in fact fired at all, as he failed to knock the safety catch off from the "on safe" position.
 
As many said above, you don't want a sling in the African bush. Then, for the carry method itself... Just carry a 10 or 11 lbs rifle from dawn to dusk without a sling, and you'll soon find yourself doing an "African carry" even without knowing what it is. It's simply an instinctive and comfortable way to carry any elongated object, whether it's a rifle, a spear, or a hoe. No Capstick stories involved, I'm afraid.

Now, on the safety of things: I'm aware of one deadly incident when a PH's gun fired and killed a tracker, due to a branch getting stuck in the triggerguard while walking, and safety off for whatever reason. I have myself found my safety off on a double during a walk, with no explanation for it (I'm quite anal and very deliberate when loading a gun and making it safe). Muzzle control when carrying this way is paramount, and is not as easy as said over long hours.

Personally, I do not want loaded rifles behind me, no matter how they are carried, unless it's someone that I know and trust thoroughly. I have met few people who are muzzle-conscious over extended periods of time, even seasoned hunters, and I've seen too many hair-rising instances of unsafe handling. Many if not most PHs get the client to load only when the quarry is in sight and a shot is imminent.
 
Yes. It's why the British kid got killed by the polar bear a few years back. The fellow student with the rifle cycled a whole five round magazine of live cartridges through the .30-06 bolt action rifle they'd been given and not one was fired at the bear, and in fact fired at all, as he failed to knock the safety catch off from the "on safe" position.

It was a mauser type action with flag safety I think. He probably moved safety from 9 to 12 o'clock pos. Tragic lack of training/instruction there.
 
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