What is the ideal barrel length for a 6.5 55 rifle?

Limpet

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We all know that a .308 can work well in a short barrel some calibers work better with a longer barrel.

Many favour 20 inch barrel in hunting rifles but I wonder if that is too short to get the best out of a 6.5 55

But what is the ideal barrel length for a 6.5 55 hunting rifle?
 
My Sako 75 is factory 20 1/2", and I reckon they probably know what they're doing given where the calibre originated
 
20-22”, either will be great. Go with whatever gives best balance on the rifle. An extra two inches, even though it seems small, can make a difference in feel and balance...so imho, buy 22” and reduce if front heavy until it feels right, but Inwould not go under 20 as the swede is a big slog already.
 
Mine's 23.5" with a sporter barrel, suits me fine, balances well allows more powder to be burnt in the barrel so makes the most of the case powder capacity and gives better velocity. In a pure stalking rifle though 20-24" would be where I'd put it!
 
My Sako 75 is factory 20 1/2", and I reckon they probably know what they're doing given where the calibre originated
A cynic might suggest that what they're doing is supplying a barrel-length that will sell - their purpose being to sell rifles! :)

My experience with a SAKO 75 Finnlight (20-and-a-bit" barrel, I think) was that the velocities from factory loads were markedly down on the 'book' values. In particular RWS loads, which at that time (and perhaps still) quoted test-data from a 29" barrel.

Having said that, if I had I been a hand-loader at that time I think I might still have that barrel on the rifle - as I could have improved on factory velocity and accuracy by proper load-development.
 
My Sako 75 barrel was 58 cms originally. After a rethread for a new mod it is now 52.5cm.
When it is rebarrelled I wont go under 60cm, probably closer to 65 to keep speeds up....
 
Interesting replies lads, thanks. Well I decided to go for a 22 inch barrel, I'll see how it performs shortly.
 
Interesting replies lads, thanks. Well I decided to go for a 22 inch barrel, I'll see how it performs shortly.

The 6.5x55 Swedish round was developed jointly for the Infantry battle rifles of both Sweden & Norway, in the last decade of the 19th Century. It fed the Swedish model M/94 Mauser and for the Norwegians it was used in the Krag–Jørgensen rifle. I believe the main projectile used initially in both rifles for their respective Infantry forces was a very long 156gr. Round Nose of FMJ basic design. For the Swedish Infantry their M94 battle rifles had useable barrel length just over 29 Inches.

Whilst the use of smokeless powders relied on an historically early, limitted choice of slow propellants, used due to the quite heavy for caliber 156gr. round nose projectiles which would have otherwise generated a lot of chamber pressures due to the length of the barrel and the high weight of the bullet.

If one now reloads for this round with bullet weights in the 139gr. upwards, some of the better/best rounds can be produced again using quite slow rifle propellants, and the rounds tend to give of their best from longer than is now accepted from regular factory produced rifles.

The M/94 Swedish Mauser was produced in thousands throughout several decades of service with barrels measuring just a whisker over 29 inches, and this length was considered by the Swedish Military to get the best from their rounds. To get the best VELOCITIES from the heavier for caliber rounds in particular in our modern rifles I believe that length of barrel would still be "ideal" for range work, and for hunting/stalking depending on the barrel thickness and contour and stock materials and design.

That said most MODERN hunting/stalking rifles come from their manufacturers with barrels in the 20-24" and I believe the latter to be a good fit, having sufficient length to get good muzzle velocities whilst perhaps losing a few 10s of f.p.s. from that possible in full length barrels.

When considering a modern hunting/stalking rifle which is to be taken to difficult hilly or mountainous terrains etc. a long barrel is often just impractical due to the rifle's heft. But as long as the firearm is capable of REPEATABLE first bullet accuracy, a barrel length down to 20" and of relatively lite profile should be acceptable, but there WILL BE some penalty in achievable muzzle velocities, especially with bullets in the 130gr. and upwards.

Keeping the ranges from you to critter at sensible distances from the muzzle I doubt whether you or the target will notice any difference, but the arc of flight of the projectile will be more pronounced and that may(?) make the difference to you if trying to down a deer say at several hundred yards.

The choice is yours. My Tikka t3 'Sporter' wears a 24" barrel, but it is a tad heavy and gets heavier if carried for a couple of miles, especially when the countryside is hilly!!

I read latter that you have chosen to get a rifle with a 22" barrel and that should be fine, but check out the muzzle velocity of your chosen hunting round(s) before heading afield, so you will have a good handle on the trajectory arc of your fired bullets!

Me.... When rebarreling becomes a necessity for the return of premium accuracy with my Tikka when using it for rangework, I will be asking for a 28"->30" heavy barrel, perhaps milled with lengthwise grooves to help reduce the obvious weight penalty some...

ATB ..... and shoot safely
 
My 6,5x55 has a 22" barrel, and with 140 grains bullets and moderate loads, I achieve approximately 800 m/s.

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The 6.5x55 Swedish round was developed jointly for the Infantry battle rifles of both Sweden & Norway, in the last decade of the 19th Century. It fed the Swedish model M/94 Mauser and for the Norwegians it was used in the Krag–Jørgensen rifle. I believe the main projectile used initially in both rifles for their respective Infantry forces was a very long 156gr. Round Nose of FMJ basic design. For the Swedish Infantry their M94 battle rifles had useable barrel length just over 29 Inches.

Whilst the use of smokeless powders relied on an historically early, limitted choice of slow propellants, used due to the quite heavy for caliber 156gr. round nose projectiles which would have otherwise generated a lot of chamber pressures due to the length of the barrel and the high weight of the bullet.

If one now reloads for this round with bullet weights in the 139gr. upwards, some of the better/best rounds can be produced again using quite slow rifle propellants, and the rounds tend to give of their best from longer than is now accepted from regular factory produced rifles.

The M/94 Swedish Mauser was produced in thousands throughout several decades of service with barrels measuring just a whisker over 29 inches, and this length was considered by the Swedish Military to get the best from their rounds. To get the best VELOCITIES from the heavier for caliber rounds in particular in our modern rifles I believe that length of barrel would still be "ideal" for range work, and for hunting/stalking depending on the barrel thickness and contour and stock materials and design.

That said most MODERN hunting/stalking rifles come from their manufacturers with barrels in the 20-24" and I believe the latter to be a good fit, having sufficient length to get good muzzle velocities whilst perhaps losing a few 10s of f.p.s. from that possible in full length barrels.

When considering a modern hunting/stalking rifle which is to be taken to difficult hilly or mountainous terrains etc. a long barrel is often just impractical due to the rifle's heft. But as long as the firearm is capable of REPEATABLE first bullet accuracy, a barrel length down to 20" and of relatively lite profile should be acceptable, but there WILL BE some penalty in achievable muzzle velocities, especially with bullets in the 130gr. and upwards.

Keeping the ranges from you to critter at sensible distances from the muzzle I doubt whether you or the target will notice any difference, but the arc of flight of the projectile will be more pronounced and that may(?) make the difference to you if trying to down a deer say at several hundred yards.

The choice is yours. My Tikka t3 'Sporter' wears a 24" barrel, but it is a tad heavy and gets heavier if carried for a couple of miles, especially when the countryside is hilly!!

I read latter that you have chosen to get a rifle with a 22" barrel and that should be fine, but check out the muzzle velocity of your chosen hunting round(s) before heading afield, so you will have a good handle on the trajectory arc of your fired bullets!

Me.... When rebarreling becomes a necessity for the return of premium accuracy with my Tikka when using it for rangework, I will be asking for a 28"->30" heavy barrel, perhaps milled with lengthwise grooves to help reduce the obvious weight penalty some...

ATB ..... and shoot safely

Thanks Blobby, I have decided to accept the trajectory of this caliber against the flatter shooting rounds as I generally shoot fairly close range and the years are rolling on for me and easier/softer-on-the-shoulder shooting now appeals.
 
Thanks Blobby, I have decided to accept the trajectory of this caliber against the flatter shooting rounds as I generally shoot fairly close range and the years are rolling on for me and easier/softer-on-the-shoulder shooting now appeals.

My pleasure 'Limpet' you are most welcome, and I know what you mean with the inroad of time/years all too well.. Ha!

Yes, the 6.5mm rounds (all) don't bang back into your shoulder nor rattle ones teeth quite as sharply nor as noticeably as the larger diameter (generally heavier) bullets from the 30 calibers on up, yet still do a very respectable job dispatching game. Bullet selection and placement are more critical, but if as you say your hunting is done mostly at close ranges this round will not disappoint .. Happy Hunting fella!

ATB..... and safe shooting.
 
Having had a 6.5x54 Mannlicher carbine, and for some time now a 6.5x55 SWE in an M38, an 1893 spotted with a 25 inch barrel, and a Ruger 77 with a 22 inch tube, I think 24 is better for that ratio of bore volume to case volume.
 
Having had a 6.5x54 Mannlicher carbine, and for some time now a 6.5x55 SWE in an M38, an 1893 spotted with a 25 inch barrel, and a Ruger 77 with a 22 inch tube, I think 24 is better for that ratio of bore volume to case volume.

A "carbine" with a 25" barrel.... These days those two elements of that length versus that name are generally exclusive.. A carbine with a 25" barrel.. Ha!

What was that Mannlicher M38 carbine like to use please 'Southern' and did that slightly longer barrel help any or not different enough to notice
Was it heavy or light in day to day use?
Did it have an internal magazine or a removable one, and of what capacity please??
Was there much of a problem in mounting a scope and scope base please??
Did you reload for it and if that is a YES, did that work out OK.

ATB ..... and shoot safely..
 
Sorry for the confusion. My short answer was typed into my phone.

My 6.5x54 Mannlicher stutzen had a 20 inch barrel and was fitted with a factory mount and 4x Zeiss scope. It is not an apples and apples comparison to the 6.5x55 Swede, but it is a pretty slow round.

My original 1893 Mauser 6.5x55mm Swedish sporting rifle shoots pretty well, and the longer barrel helps velocity, as I load it for an older rifle. It has iron sights. The family who had owned it since 1893 had mounted a Lyman receiver sight along the way, which suits me just fine.

The Ruger 77 is not an head-to-head comparison with those two, because I load it to modern standards. The M38, with its 24-inch barrel, shoots the same loads a wee bit faster. So the 22 inch barrel is probably most practical for a hunting rifle, but I use them all, and the OP asked for "ideal barrel length". I am not being scientific, just stating what I feel from shooting these various rifles of my own, and my friend's rifles over the years.
 
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Thank you for this extended info 'Southern'. I did wonder when you mentioned the Mannlicher about the round it was using as I hadn't found or seen one in 6.5x55 SE. My misunderstanding and slight confusion is now cleared with your explanation and in the establishment that the "25" carbine" barrel shoots the standard Mannlicher round, the slower, slightly older(?) 6.5x54!!!

Now I can say with some conviction.. Ah-ha!

Thanks again my friend.

ATB ..... and shoot safely.
 
I was still unclear. My 1893 sporting Mauser is in 6.5x55mm Swede, not 6.5x54 Mannlicher or 6.5 Krag. It wears its original 25 inch barrel.

Sweden and Norway were using the 6.5mm in the Krag Jorgensen rifles, and when the stronger Mauser Model 1893 was designed, it could handle the modern smokeless powders and higher pressures, so Sweden was interested in grading up to a more powerful 6.5x55mm.

The Mauser brothers built at least 75 sample rifles and gave them to the King of Sweden. Some were 29-inch infantry rifles, some were calvary carbines, some were sporting rifles. I have one an 1893 purported to be one of those rifles, which I got from a U.S. Army general stationed in Norway, who had obtained it from a family where it had been since 1893.

Mauser got the contract, but they were required to build a factory in Sweden to make the rifles. While that was underway, Mauser built the 1894 riles in Germany, using Swedish steel. The Swedish, Carl Gustav Mausers, were the 1896 Model with the long barrel which was common on military rifles. The Model 1898 in 8x57IS, is the same long barrel. As powders improved, the K98 of the 1930s was shortened to 23.6 inches, and the Swedish M38 likewise. The M1924 Mauser, built in Czechoslovakia, was the first modern Mauser. The G40K, with a 19.5 inch barrel, is an example of how a short barrel works better with a larger diameter 8mm bore than the 6.5mm bore.
 
22.4" because that's what mine is!

No seriously if you reload it will just depend on what powder you use. Once the powder is burnt at say 'x' inches down the barrel the rest of the barrel is a waste of material and perhaps detrimental. The Reload Swiss powders seem pretty good and experimenting with different calibers at the moment. Working on RS60 and RS62 for the 6.6x55 at the moment, I suspect either will be good at around 2,700 ft/sec.

What I can say is when using a fast burning powder that is fully burnt in a 22" barrel the 24" barrel gave the same if not slightly slower results. On the other hand when I used a slow burning powder in the longer barrel it had the velocity advantage but then it was able to burn all the powder unlike the shorter barrel.

Traditionally the 6.5x55 used a longish barrel about 24" but then powders have come a long way since so shorter will work.
 
% burnt powder matters not if you cant get the thing off tje shoulder and into the aim because its so unwieldy. Best to consider the rifle and moderator as a whole. With a JetZ I find 20-21" about my limit. With a Hausken I can stretch a bit further.

Adjusting powders for barrel length is a bit of a myth. Best powder for velocity for 24" is the same for 20" and if its moderated muzzle flash isnt normally an issue.
 
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