One more pick of the collective brain please..... (then I promise to shut up for a while ;)

[Big_Sparky]

How’do!
.308 bought and winging its way northwards so happy days! Many thanks to those who offered advice and insight!

This leaves me (for now!) to find something to fill the .22 space on my FAC. Don’t really have a large budget left - ideally somewhere around the 300 mark inc a scope and MOD. I’ve found a couple that fit my requirements (I think!) and just really wanted some opinions as to what differentiates them - 2 are essentially the same but have different scopes so part of the question is, particularly when you’re looking at used, what makes a good or the better scope?

Last question - what’s the difference between a CZ 452 2E-ZKM and a CZ American?

Links to adds I’ve looked at:

Guns For Sale | New and Used Guns | GunTrader

GunTrader the UK's No.1 marketplace for guns for sale. Buy or sell new and used guns and shooting equipment. Browse shotguns, rifles, air rifles and pistols.

www.guntrader.uk

Guns For Sale | New and Used Guns | GunTrader

GunTrader the UK's No.1 marketplace for guns for sale. Buy or sell new and used guns and shooting equipment. Browse shotguns, rifles, air rifles and pistols.

www.guntrader.uk

They’re the two that are almost identical (really at the thick end of my budget but the same dealer has a shotgun I have my eye on so hoping to do some arm wrestling )

Then an older more “used” used model - but obviously a lump cheaper

Rifles for Sale - Gunstar

Browse Rifles for sale from our community of shooting enthusiasts on the UK’s #1 gun marketplace. Search, buy and sell Rifles on Gunstar today!

www.gunstar.co.uk

And finally an American - not much detail in the advert but they’ve emailed me a pic and told me the scope is a Tasco 4-18x50. (Pic shown below)

RMacleod - The Scottish Firearms and Optical Dealer

RMacleod - The Scottish Firearms and Optical Dealer

rmacleod.co.uk

I’m sure you’ll notice a theme - but if not - any suggestions aside of these links have to be left handed too

Cheers!!

 

[Woodsmoke]

Barrel length, basically. The American has a 26" barrel, threaded 1/2 UNF, and t'other has an 18" barrel, I think? Both fine rifles, and the scopes on either will be just fine, to my mind.

My own .22 is a 452 Silhouette. Basically an American with a shorter barrel, and a synthetic stock with a raised comb. Obviously, because I have one it's the finest rifle ever built lol, but if you can find one of those you won't regret it

 

[Mossypaw]

CZ 452 2E-ZKM and an ‘American’ are the same rifle.
My American has a 16” barrel.

 

[Woodsmoke]

The ZKM version is a military trainer. Actions are the same, but the barrel is longer and it had factory iron sights

 

[Mossypaw]

 

[Woodsmoke]

Hmm. Interesting! More digging needed, methinks

 

[Big_Sparky]

Cheers gents! So not really anything between those options other than age on one?

 

[Woodsmoke]

I would say no. Both fine rifles. In fact, anything from the CZ stable is worth looking at. If I was forced, for myself I'd be looking at the one with the Hawke scope, purely because I'm a fan of them

 

[Mossypaw]

What Woodsmoke said above
plus you will be well looked after in Tain, might even find a shotgun to go with it !

 

[Big_Sparky]

Aye - maybe need an excuse for a run out north!

 

[Border]

The 'american" part of the nomenclature is the classic straight combed stock as opposed to the earlier versions hogs back.

 

[topscots1]

To throw a curve ball some real bargain anschultz rifles out there as well. A little older but timeless quality.

 

[Big_Sparky]

To throw a curve ball some real bargain anschultz rifles out there as well. A little older but timeless quality.

I’d never thought about Anschultz to be fair - aside of an air gun in my mate’s back garden, my shooting story began as a teenager with the Cadets - we had some Anschultz rifles but they were reserved for the shooting team and, back then at least, I had no interest in “sport” target shooting so never got to fire one. I think that’s left me with some odd memory related bias ha ha

 

[topscots1]

I’d never thought about Anschultz to be fair - aside of an air gun in my mate’s back garden, my shooting story began as a teenager with the Cadets - we had some Anschultz rifles but they were reserved for the shooting team and, back then at least, I had no interest in “sport” target shooting so never got to fire one. I think that’s left me with some odd memory related bias ha ha

They are fantastic rifles, quality at a good price, Cluny country sports has a lovely full set up in shop for comparative pennies.

 

[Big_Sparky]

Interesting!! Just been trying to look on their website but can’t see it - actually “down south” visiting family for the weekend (always seems odd calling the North East “south” but I’m trying to be a good Adopted Scot
Will have to give them a ring and maybe take a very weird detour home and hope the wife doesn’t notice why we aren’t going the proper way

 

[topscots1]

Give them a call, defeniteley worth popping in, loads more used than on the website. They will always do a good deal on new rifles as well.

 

[Big_Sparky]

Cheers! Will do!

 

[Muir]

Save a little more money and buy a Tikka.~Muir