Greta Thumberg Schools UN on Extinction

[bobjs]

She has jumped on the band wagon and will have an easy life until she crocks or all the ice has gone from Iceland.

The world has been changing since millennia and we cant stop it, i am sure if the dinosaurs could have told us this, we still would be in deep do do and still be told its our fault, the degradation of the planet is called EVOLUTION and we will have to live with it (well our children will etc.

The world as we know it ( as our predecessors found out) has and will change, and its not just down to cars and fuel, WE the worlds worst predators have been raping the world since we could stand on 2 legs.

Now stop eating meat, farting and drinking red wine while thinking of better times, just sit in you’r battery powered car ( and what energy was used to make the battery in the first place) looking at all the wind farms thinking how bad is that.

Remember your lost friends and hug the ones you love, live your life coz, at some point there will not be a tomorrow,


Bob

 

[dartmoordog]

And when was the last time 500.000 people demonstrated in a Canadian city?

I dunno.......But who was counting, it looks more like 263,423 to me. But as I said, remove those that should be at school, nothing better to do and the gullible, it would be around 457.

 

[dartmoordog]

Now stop eating meat, farting and drinking red wine........

Bob

But, but! ...............That’s me f***ed then!

 

[bobjs]

But, but! ...............That’s me f***ed then!

Me too,

I love a good fart when in the company of my wife and she asked WHY does it smell so bad when we eat the same things ????????????,


It’s the intake of gas fumes from the rifle i say

Bob.

 

[dartmoordog]

It is reported/alledged that, airline mogul, Richard Branson’s daughter joined in one of the children’s parades!

That is the mockery of the whole thing.

 

[Sterry]

How can anyone argue that young people being interested and active in politics and the world be a bad thing.

“She’s a puppet” - not a lot of evidence of that...she’s criticised fairly evenly across political spheres. She’s openly said she will donate her €25k award money to climate change causes...would be pretty damning for her to pocket that now.

“Climate change is natural” - well yeah! Just not at the rate we are experiencing. Usually the fastest climate change has been caused by something really quiet **** happening as in huge chunks of rocks pounding into the Gulf of Mexico. Or volcanoes. Even then the mass extinctions that followed wasn’t immediate taking some 40,000 years at last estimate. The issue as I see it is reducing our impact can only give us more wiggle room for if and when one of these catastrophic events happen. And society is far more fragile than the survival of the human species. Think of market crashes, London riots, the start of ww1 all started by seemingly small events. Surely we have all heard the 4 meals rule...used by the Roman Empire through to Mi5. We are all only 4 meals away from anarchy (I’m confident members of this forum would have a few days/weeks worth of meals in the freezer or still in the woods) but for the majority it’s a day and a breakfast missed before unrest.
This bring us back to climate change generally making weather less predictable and more extreme caused by the collapse or fluctuations in weather systems (el Nino, jet stream, polar vortices etc) less predictable weather adds to the risk of crop failures worldwide. Yes we could breed more resistant varieties etc but that takes time and has its limit....fingers crossed for the variety that can stand in 6inches of water and a dust bowl in two different years.

“But what about China and India” - Yes developing countries are contributing to emissions. But as world leaders we should be leading the world right...trying to bring them up not a race to the bottom. We had our years of dirty coal when nothing else was viable or consequences known. now we do and how to circumnavigate. Green energy needs to be more accountable than is at present but this can only drive us forward.

“Build a solar shield”- ‍ You get the funding and technology all lined up for that! those who don’t pay in do we cut a hole in that bit? Also space junk, solar winds, potential hacking? Bit fanciful don’t you think. I am the world biggest fan of a bodge job but only if it’s easier than doing a proper job!!!

Even if you still don’t believe man made climate change is a things....for us in the uk surely the reduction in reliance upon imported fuel stuffs is good for fuel security? (Yes North Sea oil but that hasn’t been financially viable for years hence immense subsidies. But yes should keep it going as a matter of security - something I feel should have been better managed with our steel works for same reasons.

A bunch of MPS (male pale stale) hating on a 16 year old girl for wanting to live in a better world. Not a good look. Would it make a difference if she was two years older and had a Y chromosome I wonder?

I like her and wish her all my support. I hope she goes far and enacts some change.

 

[camodog]

World wide Airplane use, only produces 2% of all C02 emissions.

RightWing talking points that people should not fly to climate meetings...

Why then ? all the hysteria and additional taxes as regards flying ?
Nothing to do with a 'right wing' stance at all ! These climate doommongers do enough pontificating about jet travel then proceed to attend all manner of jaunts around the world....accompanied, no doubt, by a multitude of hangers-on !
With the technology available today, I should have thought they would have embraced the concept of the 'telephone conference'. This would lessen their carbon footprint, furthermore, practice some of what they preach ! But, hey, that's not quite as appealing as two weeks away is it !

 

[camodog]

only if head shots are allowed, oh and no paperwork.

That rules our 'courses' then ! Think I'll give it a miss then !

 

[mchughcb]

Just for noting.

 

[dartmoordog]

How can anyone argue that young people being interested and active in politics and the world be a bad thing.

“She’s a puppet” - not a lot of evidence of that...she’s criticised fairly evenly across political spheres. She’s openly said she will donate her €25k award money to climate change causes...would be pretty damning for her to pocket that now.

“Climate change is natural” - well yeah! Just not at the rate we are experiencing. Usually the fastest climate change has been caused by something really quiet **** happening as in huge chunks of rocks pounding into the Gulf of Mexico. Or volcanoes. Even then the mass extinctions that followed wasn’t immediate taking some 40,000 years at last estimate. The issue as I see it is reducing our impact can only give us more wiggle room for if and when one of these catastrophic events happen. And society is far more fragile than the survival of the human species. Think of market crashes, London riots, the start of ww1 all started by seemingly small events. Surely we have all heard the 4 meals rule...used by the Roman Empire through to Mi5. We are all only 4 meals away from anarchy (I’m confident members of this forum would have a few days/weeks worth of meals in the freezer or still in the woods) but for the majority it’s a day and a breakfast missed before unrest.
This bring us back to climate change generally making weather less predictable and more extreme caused by the collapse or fluctuations in weather systems (el Nino, jet stream, polar vortices etc) less predictable weather adds to the risk of crop failures worldwide. Yes we could breed more resistant varieties etc but that takes time and has its limit....fingers crossed for the variety that can stand in 6inches of water and a dust bowl in two different years.

“But what about China and India” - Yes developing countries are contributing to emissions. But as world leaders we should be leading the world right...trying to bring them up not a race to the bottom. We had our years of dirty coal when nothing else was viable or consequences known. now we do and how to circumnavigate. Green energy needs to be more accountable than is at present but this can only drive us forward.

“Build a solar shield”- ‍♂ You get the funding and technology all lined up for that! those who don’t pay in do we cut a hole in that bit? Also space junk, solar winds, potential hacking? Bit fanciful don’t you think. I am the world biggest fan of a bodge job but only if it’s easier than doing a proper job!!!

Even if you still don’t believe man made climate change is a things....for us in the uk surely the reduction in reliance upon imported fuel stuffs is good for fuel security? (Yes North Sea oil but that hasn’t been financially viable for years hence immense subsidies. But yes should keep it going as a matter of security - something I feel should have been better managed with our steel works for same reasons.

A bunch of MPS (male pale stale) hating on a 16 year old girl for wanting to live in a better world. Not a good look. Would it make a difference if she was two years older and had a Y chromosome I wonder?

I like her and wish her all my support. I hope she goes far and enacts some change.

OK, I fully admit to not getting a great education.........But sorry, I haven’t a clue what your talking about.

 

[reloader54]

OK, I fully admit to not getting a great education.........But sorry, I haven’t a clue what your talking about.

I wouldn't worry too much, often the confusion is at the source.

 

[Sterry]

Hey

OK, I fully admit to not getting a great education.........But sorry, I haven’t a clue what your talking about.

Not to worry, which part buddy?

 

[dartmoordog]

Hey

Not to worry, which part buddy?

Oh trust me, I ain’t worried buddy. It is just a whole load of tosh, but that is just my opinion........So not to worry buddy!

 

[dartmoordog]

I wouldn't worry too much, often the confusion is at the source.

You ain’t kidding.

 

[Sterry]

Yeah....you might have to come up with a better argument than “its tosh”. I know it’s unfashionable these days but maybe some evidence. I’d settle for some intelligent discussion or explanation for such a held views.

What’s the worst that could happen if she’s wrong?
What’s the worst that could happen if climate change deniers are wrong?
I know what planet I’d rather be wrong in.

 

[dartmoordog]

Yeah....you might have to come up with a better argument than “its tosh”. I know it’s unfashionable these days but maybe some evidence. I’d settle for some intelligent discussion or explanation for such a held views.

No, tosh is fine with me. I am actually being polite tbh, but what does “explanation for such a held views” mean.

 

[John Gryphon]

she asked WHY does it smell so bad when we eat the same things ????????????,

Tell her that it is simply a fact that women being the lesser of the species just cant handle a decent old fried onion and duck egg fart like blokes can....said as you are going out the door.

 

[User00035]

Give her a Dutch oven in bed every night. She'll get used to it.

 

[oowee]

Maybe Brexit will be the answer.

The – largely unmentioned – benefit of a no-deal Brexit is that since the neoliberal global economy is declining, Britain might as well get its collapse in early to avoid the rush. That is, as the net energy available to the economy declines because of the remorseless rise in the energy cost of energy, so maintaining the complex network of supply chains that keeps the system going is going to have to break down. Like it or not, the future will be less material and far more localised. The only question concerns the speed at which it happens and the way in which the impacts are felt.

Despite its proponents claims to the contrary, Brexit obliges the UK economy to re-localise and de-materialise in a way that it will ultimately have to anyway. It is, of course, not the ideal means by which de-growth could occur. But – let’s be honest here – no government on earth is going to voluntarily de-grow; so the longer we leave it, the more catastrophic it is going to be. Moreover, a “managed de-growth” may turn out to be as fanciful in its way as the techno-utopian belief that we can continue to grow the global economy by replacing fossil fuels with wind turbines and solar panels.
source, 'Consciousness of sheep'

 

[Sterry]

No, tosh is fine with me. I am actually being polite tbh, but what does “explanation for such a held views” mean.

Why you think “it’s tosh”. Must be based on something