Vegan Food and Irreverent Music, All Before Lunchtime

I stalk because I love the outdoors and I am a foodie. I am pretty ominvorous from frying up warm kidneys for breakfast after a morning stalk, through to falafel wrap and occasionally deep fried tofu. Most Saturdays my daughters and I visit Stroud Farmers Market for breakfast, to meet up wiyh friends, buy the world's best olives, walnut bread and single Gloyucester cheese, and generally watch the characters go by (our new Conservative MP's badge: "Keep Stroud Weird").

Today in the square were 4 vegan popups. I prefer things to be genuine rather than copies of something else, so vegan sausages, vergan burgers and Hogless Roast (made with 'plant meat'), did not float my boat.

However "Two Broke Girls" are in a new league. Their popup had just 4 dishes on the menu with examples of each in front. I had a spicy crispy seitan sandwich with crunchy spicy slaw. I have rarely had something so completely delicious, in looks taste, texture and just fun. Food that truly excelled; certainly on a pair with my first Poulet de Bresse in Paris, and even table-prepared steak tartare near Annecy.

"Two Broke Girls" are on facebook (whateverb that is), and really worth a visit. Needless to say, my only interest in this business is a very satisfied customer.

And in these days of political correctness, how refreshing to meet a band of three ladies, and two blokes under the name of "Muddy Summers and the Dirty Field Whores" (for heavan's sake !!) busking in the high street bashing out some great tunes including "Get Off My Tits, You Moaning Old Git". They are a bit like a folk version of "Dumpy's Rusty Nuts", some on here might remember. Just marvellous.

What a good morning. And the boys are getting together with their young lads this afternoon to teach some gun safety, shooting skills and knock holes in tin cans.

 

[Scotty99]

Ah right, you didn't mean it ironically.

So what exactly is the difference? I am intrigued.

According to your statements both parties would appear to feel entitled to pass judgement and are driven to proselytise.

Maybe I misunderstood....How does the implied evangelism of your "I am against vegans and veganism" actually manifest then if you don't tell vegans what they should and should not do or believe? Is it confined to declaring your opposition to their views on here, a forum of meat eaters?

How is it different philosophically from the vegan credo "I am against killing animals and eating meat"? The evangelical element notwithstanding.

Alan

To be clear.....I'm not against vegans or veganism per se........just the ones who insist that their's is the only way and everyone else on the planet needs to join them in their vegan utopia. As yet I have met very few who do not fall into this latter category.

 

[reloader54]

 

[User00025]

I often wonder if this thing is on here.

You've dyed your beard. Must have been to Mecca.

 

[foxdropper]

Vegan =failed hunter

 

[Alantoo]

To be clear.....I'm not against vegans or veganism per se........just the ones who insist that their's is the only way and everyone else on the planet needs to join them in their vegan utopia. As yet I have met very few who do not fall into this latter category.

Fair do's...I agree it is the imposition of your views onto others (or vice versa) that I disagree with as well.

Having said that I have met and know a lot of vegans and vegetarians and none of them have tried to convert me. A cousin in law and her daughter have gone from vegetarian to vegan a year or so ago and even as recent converts they have a "live and let live" attitude. (see what I did there? )

We also have friends who are vegetarian who's kids tucked into the venison at a recent get together, and friends who's kids are vegetarian who seem to be quite happy eating at the same table as us omnivores...

Your experience is obviously different from mine...just have to take people as we find them I guess...

Meanwhile, I quite often go for the veggie/vegan option if I think it will be factory farmed rather than wild or organic meat on the plate...

Alan

 

[User00025]

For my money I can't really understand people who go that way, but each to their own.
The two things that bother me about it are:-
The amount of sprays and chemicals needed and used on the land to produce enough plant food to feed a world full of vegans.
How would I survive as I am literally a venison addict. A definite meatatarian.☻

 

[RichardAllen]

I have seen you shoot...at a BDS day at Greensleeves Range, so I don't think you need any more of a man sized chambering than you had there!

And the other fantastic treat I remember at the Saturday Market in Stroud always used to be Girish's(?) vegan/vegetarian Samosas...if they are still there try one on my recommendation!

A couple of those Samosas and a Speck and Brie Baguette from the Mother Nature shop used to be able to overcome my agoraphobia for an hour!

Alan

Alan
Girish is still a fixture; his samosas, bhajis and my favourite dal are all a must for our Saturday breakfast, along with burgers bacon butties sausage rolls and weird pasties. And now, of course, anything from Two Broke Girls

 

[RichardAllen]

Meanwhile, I quite often go for the veggie/vegan option if I think it will be factory farmed rather than wild or organic meat on the plate...

Alan

Absolutely agree, leave out the factory chicken or steak from a far continent (never mind venison from NZ aaarrrghh !) and anyway I find the chef usually tries harder with veggie stuff.

But you cannot beat devilled kidneys on toast after a morning stalk !

 

[RichardAllen]

Ah I see the balls have dropped mate ,welcome to adulthood and it’s benefits .
If grammer is all you’ll ever pick me up on then perhaps one has been retained .
If supporting veganism is innocuous,considering they are our anti christ then maybe your time would be better spent weaving daisy chains rather than discussing hunting on a hunting forum .
Oh and .243 ok mate ,until the other drops that is .
Hope grammer was ok ,if not ",*’£.....()

That did make me smile. I do hope my balls indeed have dropped after two daughters and a vasectomy!!

 

[fra150l]

Therefore the only vegans that you need to be against are the ones that try to tell you what you should eat. ie, the outspoken aggressive "militant" vegans.
There are plenty of others, decent enough folk, who just want to get on and do their own thing and don't voice strong objections if you choose to do things differently.
Unfortunately it's the noisy ones who get the air time.

Agree 100%

 

[Skye]

Calm down children for goodness sake otherwise it’s the naughty step for you! Didn’t think when I joined this forum that I’d signed up for a foodie fest, soon we’ll be sniffing empty brass and getting chocolate and notes of burnt strawberries. Enough.

 

[Skye]

Also picking someone up on their grammar is not big or clever.

 

[McKenzie]

Also picking someone up on their grammar is not big or clever.

'Also' should have a comma after it.

 

[reloader54]

Also picking someone up on their grammar is not big or clever.

neither is fanning the flames of a dying thread to get it potentially blazing again,,, but here we are.

 

[Skye]

My ‘Also’ was declarative rather than performative I believe but I bow to superior knowledge on the matter!

 

[User00036]

Vegetarians do have a valid point, some are against the level of cruelty that exists in factory farming, some do not wish to eat meat because they do not want to harm animals, some just don't like the taste. I have catholic tastes also, I prefer to eat meat that has had a good life, that has seen the sun shine, that eats a variety of different foods. Maybe we are seeing the start of a new level of conciousness , folks are starting to to be more aware of the levels of cruelty & suffering & insane violence in the world, & are trying to do something about it. They are bringing about a change that has been long overdue. Personally I don't think think folks should eat meat unless they have an understanding of what has been involved in the death of an animal, & should be prepared to kill gut, pluck & skin it. Its simply unacceptable that you can buy 36 chicken thighs for less than a fiver, that has been raised from egg to plate in less than 30 days in some chicken shed concentration camp. Thats not food, its not chicken or pork, its protein bred on a petri dish. I'm a farmer, my animals had names, I cared for them, & felt a degree of sadness when the day came. I enjoy shooting, but I am sure that no sportsman want to see an animal suffer, unless its a fox thats just wiped out my chickens. Only joking. Everything I eat is vegetarian, lamb beef deer chickens etc.

 

[The Singing Stalker]

Dumpy used to play the Magna Carta bike rally. He was booked for the Saturday but he wanted to play the Friday because it was his birthday. I think he was 50.
I was doing Stage security at the time. Different times.

 

[Cootmeurer]

Many years ago I as active in soybean research as an academic. We hosted an international conference on Soybean Cellular and Molecular Biology and I was tasked with finding some entertainment. Many vegan and vegetarian chefs offered to come and do a display but nearly all were of the California Fruit Flake and Nut Variety preaching you are either vegan or an infidel.

However, I settled for one group that surpassed my expectations. They were a black family that cooked “southern style” aka soul food. Their offerings included many good food, but the one that stood out was a Tofu cheesecake that was indistinguishable from dairy version. I too am an omnivore foodie but have to admit I learned much that day.