My first Boar - a Lesson in Persistence and Planning

This is a bit of a long winded one, hopefully relatable as a first experience of hunting/stalking, and hopefully other people looking to get into this sort of thing can read this and avoid some of my mistakes!

My First Attempt
In April I headed to the Forest of Dean for a lesson in preparedness. Arriving on time, with a zeroed rifle on a freshly developed 220 grain ball tipped 30-06 load fitted with a brand new Pulsar Thermion 2, I was excited, but didn't really know what to expect.

Barry (ELMER_FUDD on here), the keeper, was very welcoming and took me through where I'd be sitting, where he'd be etc, and then left me to it.

Having never done anything remotely like this before, and wrapped up warm in my hide, there was a real novelty to watching dusk fall and hearing the woods come alive.

As it got dark, I soon discovered that picking up my rifle to sweep back and forth to have a look around was noisy, awkward, and made me more than a little uncomfortable, it being a loaded rifle.

After a short while some deer started to appear, but I had absolutely no hope of identifying what type of deer they were, something that was entirely my fault through inexperience (my username really is a giveaway here).

I began to hear movement around my hide, but kept making loud banging noises every time I picked up or put down the rifle to see what it was, with the result that all noise would stop for a minute or two!

At around 11pm I fell asleep for a couple of hours, and likely missed my opportunity! At 1, some deer came down out of the tree line and started grazing, making their way across the field. At 2, they were briefly joined by a badger.

At 3, a fox came out to investigate the bait pile. A quick text to the keeper confirmed that a dead fox would be appreciated, and I promptly dropped my phone, scaring the fox off before I could shoot it!

After that I decided to knock it on the head, getting a couple of hours shuteye with the plan to see if the deer were still hanging around just before dawn. And they were! However, I still couldn't identify what type of deer they were, didn't have binoculars to aid with that, and to make matters worse the seasons had changed over at midnight, and I now was able to confirm that they were does, and thus I couldn't shoot them even if I knew what species they were.

Feeling cold, quite frustrated but still having had a lot of fun, I schlepped my way back home and wrote a huge list of things I needed to sort before next time, be it equipment or things to know/check beforehand.

The Second Attempt
Undeterred, I returned in August, this time bringing a friend along to keep me awake. He'd shot lots of boar growing up in France, but hadn't held a rifle since coming to the UK two decades ago.

He went off to zero the estate rifle while I got set up, with my new sticks and LRF thermal spotter making things far easier.

My friend returned at around 9, and less than an hour later a sow and several adolescent piglets showed up!

My friend told me to shoot, he wasn't comfortable shooting live animals after such a long break, and two shots in quick succession later, the sow and one of the piglets fell where they were shot.

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Now came the fun part - I had zero experience of graloching freshly shot animals, having never shot anything bigger than a squirrel or rabbit before.

Thankfully, Barry and his assistant Dave were able to come out and give me an excellent demonstration on one pig while I did the other, and that was that.

We retired to our hotel, headed home, and in the morning set to butchering the two carcasses, resulting in a whole suckling pig and a decent haul of joints each.

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All I need to do now is forecast when it will all be eaten by so I can book in another trip!
 
Shooting the sow creates chaos in the sounder as they loose the directions given by mum. A sow tends to be loyal to its area without wandering far off now the youngsters will go off in all directions. Thought you should know that.
Bavarianbrit, it is true that "shooting the sow creates chaos" but Midlandspaperpunch is a newebie and nobody was born trained and "Phded". A keeper worth his salt should have warned him on this matter.
 
Shooting the sow creates chaos in the sounder as they loose the directions given by mum. A sow tends to be loyal to its area without wandering far off now the youngsters will go off in all directions. Thought you should know that.

Good to know.

The keeper had told me there was a sow and piglets around, and if I could try not to shoot the sow it would be appreciated, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if I did.

Unfortunately the sow was stood quite a way back from the piglets, and through the flatness of my thermal scope in the adrenaline of the moment it was very hard to tell which was bigger and which was further away, and I ended up shooting the sow.

Lessons learnt for next time - I don't need to shoot the boar as soon as I see it, and if the keeper has told you there's a sow and piglets around, just sit and watch them for a couple of minutes!
 
Good to know.

The keeper had told me there was a sow and piglets around, and if I could try not to shoot the sow it would be appreciated, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if I did.

Unfortunately the sow was stood quite a way back from the piglets, and through the flatness of my thermal scope in the adrenaline of the moment it was very hard to tell which was bigger and which was further away, and I ended up shooting the sow.

Lessons learnt for next time - I don't need to shoot the boar as soon as I see it, and if the keeper has told you there's a sow and piglets around, just sit and watch them for a couple of minutes!
Not many people learn by doing things right, you need to make mistakes in order to improve, I am in the same situation with Deer, new to it, out on my own learning and making mistakes, as long as we are safe and ethical we will both eventually be as good and knowledgeable as the older/wiser members on here. keep it up and enjoy the memories and the food 👍
 
Good to know.

The keeper had told me there was a sow and piglets around, and if I could try not to shoot the sow it would be appreciated, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if I did.

Unfortunately the sow was stood quite a way back from the piglets, and through the flatness of my thermal scope in the adrenaline of the moment it was very hard to tell which was bigger and which was further away, and I ended up shooting the sow.

Lessons learnt for next time - I don't need to shoot the boar as soon as I see it, and if the keeper has told you there's a sow and piglets around, just sit and watch them for a couple of minutes!
This is it when it comes to a good briefing (or not) also there is no season for them just like muntjac so take no notice of the twit in post #2 :doh:
I would have done the same and just whacked it:tiphat:
 
Good to know.

The keeper had told me there was a sow and piglets around, and if I could try not to shoot the sow it would be appreciated, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if I did.

Unfortunately the sow was stood quite a way back from the piglets, and through the flatness of my thermal scope in the adrenaline of the moment it was very hard to tell which was bigger and which was further away, and I ended up shooting the sow.

Lessons learnt for next time - I don't need to shoot the boar as soon as I see it, and if the keeper has told you there's a sow and piglets around, just sit and watch them for a couple of minutes!
Yes, I was not having a go at you the knowledge about boar is less available in the UK so thought I would put it on for all to read. I screwed up once on a roe as the older one was behind and to one side, took the shot from my drilling and the flash blanked out the view for a moment when vision returned there was a roe wobbling so assumed I had shot badly took another shot then on walking over the first shot one lay in a hollow the second one had been hit by rib shrapnel from the first shot and had been dazed. Now I never shoot at one if another animal is close behind.
 
Yes, I was not having a go at you the knowledge about boar is less available in the UK so thought I would put it on for all to read. I screwed up once on a roe as the older one was behind and to one side, took the shot from my drilling and the flash blanked out the view for a moment when vision returned there was a roe wobbling so assumed I had shot badly took another shot then on walking over the first shot one lay in a hollow the second one had been hit by rib shrapnel from the first shot and had been dazed. Now I never shoot at one if another animal is close behind.
Don't worry, I didn't take it as you having a go - I'm very much aware I am painfully new to this 😅
 
I'm in no position to judge the OP either - not should I be seen as doing so: but one should note that the point isn't about whether or not there's a season for them.
I also posted I would have whacked it, on a second point Shooting the sow creates chaos in the sounder as they loose the directions given by mum.
Post #2 added the drama where there was non :doh:
 
Some good learning points. Had the sow been lactating a salutary lesson into the potential pitfalls of orphaning dependant young. Avoid shooting the sow first unless you are confident, competent and quick enough to shoot the entire group. Else, I'd be shooting the young first and leaving the sow with a couple of piglets to still suckle. You need to be able to identify (at night) whether or not a sow is lactating in order to assess the dependency of any young - which may or may not be with her. So, it always pays to take your time, wait and watch ... and be quiet.
 
Some good learning points. Had the sow been lactating a salutary lesson into the potential pitfalls of orphaning dependant young. Avoid shooting the sow first unless you are confident, competent and quick enough to shoot the entire group. Else, I'd be shooting the young first and leaving the sow with a couple of piglets to still suckle. You need to be able to identify (at night) whether or not a sow is lactating in order to assess the dependency of any young - which may or may not be with her. So, it always pays to take your time, wait and watch ... and be quiet.
Good points! The keeper had been watching the sow for the whole summer and briefed me that the piglets were weaned, which is why it wasn't a big issue if I did shoot the sow in his words.
 
Good points! The keeper had been watching the sow for the whole summer and briefed me that the piglets were weaned, which is why it wasn't a big issue if I did shoot the sow in his words.
The piglets are dependent on the sow for the first year of life. It matters not that they are weaned or not. So the keeper was wrong. Plenty of info out on the Internet about boar biology , behaviour and group dynamics.
 
Well done, you should try a few day light stalks on deer for more experience with bigger game.
Enjoy eating your boar 🐗 😋
 
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Well done, you should try a few day light stalks on deer for more experience with bigger game.
Enjoy eating your boar 🐗 😋
That's next on the list, as is accompanying my friend to his birthplace in the south of France for on foot driven boar, as one of his distant cousins is the chairman of the local hunt so will help us organise everything 🐗
 
Well really the Boar in Britain are feral pigs and should be treated as such.
Which due to the chaos then ensuing will increase the spreading out of this invasive species (since the 1700s) the farmers will thank you like those around Peasmarsh at the McCartneys 160 acre game reserve.
 
We sometimes (Sweden) shoot sows but only when they are are solitary i.e. dec-jan. This is the time in the year when yearlings largely have spread out and manage on their own. But shooting sow only for local stock management.
When sow is killed earlier i.e. when followed by yearlings, what happens is that yearlings lose their survival instinct and tend to rely on where people are i.e. farms and villages and there causing damage.
Also, when sow is killed early there is a clear risk that the group start mating with each other which is not good for genetics. When sow is alive and active she forces male yearlings to stay away at a distance of the group.
We have this law like rule here which says 'sows are protected as long as sow is followed by yearlings'. This has nothing to do with the weaning period but that boar is dependent on group behavior with a leader.
All this relates to stone age european boar but with feral or undomesticated pigs rules for invasive species may apply.
 
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