17 HMR,s inherently are far less prone to ricochets for 3 reasons, most shoot 17 grain ballistic tips and the come apart fast on hitting anything, second they are lighter than 22 rounds and lastly travelling at near twice the speed. its a great round for vermin and target work, ammo easy to source and relatively cheap. I accept the 22 has stood the test of time and lots of guys love them but the 17 is more versatile with little hold over/under required, great round
Ever had a rifle or calibre you just don't get on with?
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Yip ! The .340 Weatherby Mag . . A nightmare of a calibre !!!! . . Kicked like a mule worse than a .375 and didn’t kill any better than a .300 win mag ! . . Ammo was horrendously expensive and wasn’t even legal for much above Eland unless you went to CAR or Cameroon . . Believe me and try it for yourself there’s not much in the way of plains game and deer a .270win with 130gr Nosler partition bullets won’t take effectively !
boar & deer
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I had a 10/22 deluxe worst rifle I have ever had how I never chucked that thing I a river is beyond me I get better groups with my shot gun
Anything I owned with Steyr written on it. Had a Varmint SL in 222 trigger awful, magazine wouldn't rotate and on ejecting cases it would dent the necks into a "D" shape. Classic half-stock in 6.5x55 could not get better than 1.5 MOA with any factory or handloaded ammo, despite having a half MOA test card, (someone in the factory with a hole punch) the ancient well worn Sako L61 it replaced could hold half MOA. I still hadn't learned my lesson as when a bargain deal on SSG69 P2 308 with Kahles 6x42 sling, mounts and a hard case for a grand came along I was suckered in. To be fair this one was actually accurate, but brittle, the plastic mag well shattered after just 50 rounds.
Sorry mate I got tied up in a another thread over the last couple of days ,
Three problems I have found with the .17hmr,
1, the wind is a major problem it is just really fickle in it and really hard to judge.
2. Flyers are more common and wheen I say flyers I mean 3 or 4 inches off.
3. I don't like how the cases split and I have found the ones that are flyers are the ones where the cases slip
4. getting used to using them through the ranges are a bit of a challenge but tbf I have not messed with one since I was younger and I did not like them back then either.
I will also NEVER buy another Howa
shame they are so bad in the wind
I kind of made the right decision as I have the switch barrel CZ455 so have barrels for both cals
Siggy
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Tikka T3 in 5.56 - I thought it would be the perfect muntjac calibre. Would have been better if I'd had a short action rifle such as a remington. Anyway, we got permission to shoot the roe on the ground so the 5.56 became superfluous. I'd love another try or a .222 - ideally in a sako but they don't make the small actions in lefty
243 fallow
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Yep I had a 270, I somehow thought it would be a game changer from the 243, god how wrong was I! in the end I hated it, got it rebarelled chambered into 2506 and never looked back.
The only rifle I did not get on with was the SLR I was issued with back in 1976
7.62 SLR's came in 3 sizes (in terms of LOP) I got the larger size - obviously - as I was, and am 5' 4"
All kit issuers have a nasty sense of humour
7.62 SLR's came in 3 sizes (in terms of LOP) I got the larger size - obviously - as I was, and am 5' 4"
All kit issuers have a nasty sense of humour
Dagben77
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Tulloch,
What's your bad experience of Howa? I've had a 223 in standard sporter for 8 years and put a lot of rounds through it. I do have occasional issues with cases jamming (more my poor cleaning I think) but it's the most accurate rifle I have. The stock is crap and the trigger feels cheap, but it's a shooter.
I was looking at getting one in 243. Any info would be useful.
I bought a new Winchester 357 lever action and I just didn’t like it, I couldn’t put my finger on what it was. I sold and bought a Marlin limited cowboy in 44mag and never looked back.
booradley
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Around 10 years ago I bought a Savage 10 .243. It had the AccuStock, 22” barrel and hinged floorplate. The first ammunition I tried in it was Hornady Superperformance 58 grain V-Max. It was phenomenally accurate, .25-.50 MOA and I had zero problems with it. Kept it for a few months and sold it, the reason being I prefer a 24” barrel on a .243 and I think Savages are butt ugly. Replaced it with a Weatherby Vanguard S2 which while not as accurate as the Savage comes close.
It took a couple of years for me to admit to myself how stupid I was to get rid of the Savage. If the situation arises again I’ll spend more time learning to accept that accuracy trumps barrel length(velocity) and looks.
It took a couple of years for me to admit to myself how stupid I was to get rid of the Savage. If the situation arises again I’ll spend more time learning to accept that accuracy trumps barrel length(velocity) and looks.
8x57
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Time for a bit of flat earther controversy/wind up!
I come from a very traditional Idaho family (although I've adopted Britain as home and am a British citizen) filled with veterans of both WW2 and Vietnam. There is a definite attitude in the family that favours traditional American makers (in guns and scopes) and calibres ...
So here comes the controversial bit! I wouldn't shoot a metric calibre. The Metric System is a Franco European plot to undermine the intellectual verility of the anglosphere.
Nor would I buy a rifle made in a former Axis power. Quoting my father, word for word, "your great Uncle Merrell didn't fight his way across Europe for the right to buy a German scope or gun".
I say I'm joking ... but I've actually only ever owned Remingtons (and one Marlin and one Savage) and the calibres I've owned are: 30-30, 308, 30-06, .300win, .375 and .458. Hmmmm ...
Hang on while I get some popcorn ...
.30-06 Oh wait a minute don't you mean 7.62x63mm ?
.308 a sort of commercial copy of 7.62x51mm.
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