6.5x55 options/long range rig

Andy coul
Link to my own SSG3000

A good read that Andy, braw work on the rifle :thumb: also.
 
I have now had 6.5CM added as a slot on my ticket. So the choices are much increased now.

Will be looking at Ruger rpr / Remington 700 prc / Tikka tac a1 or UPR / HOWA 1500 oryx / Savage stealth etc.
Does anyone have any one of these they recommend or do not recommend!?
 
I have now had 6.5CM added as a slot on my ticket. So the choices are much increased now.

Will be looking at Ruger rpr / Remington 700 prc / Tikka tac a1 or UPR / HOWA 1500 oryx / Savage stealth etc.
Does anyone have any one of these they recommend or do not recommend!?

Tikka all the way, does not have to be the TAC model to work well.

MDT plastic mags will work with the metal Tikka mag wells, much cheaper (and possibly better, as single stack single feed) than the Tikka 10 rounder.

Get a 2nd hand CTR (not sure how easy it will be to find one in 6.5, much more in .308) and chuck it in an aftermarket stock/chassis like the KRG Bravo, MDT or PSE ETAC.
 
I have a 6.5x55 Swede chambered Tikka t3 'Sporter' that has a nominal 24" heavy barrel configuration that shoots wonderfully. I preferentially shoot 139gr Lapua Scenars from it on range days and they are still trucking along way above the transonic "barrier" at 1,000yds when I am target shooting with it. They are marvelously consistent and accurate bullets in my simplistic setup, and when I repoint them, are even more so!! I have measured my loads at a solid and consistent 2,850fps (+\- about 15fps) with a Chrony chronograph and am really happy with the accuracy I get at ALL ranges out to that distance, so far. I'd like to try my loads at longer distances yet but the opportunity do so has escaped me so far!
 
6.5x55 a true Swede........View attachment 160665
The row on the right second rifle from the top . The target gun I’ve been contemplating one of those for several years now to go with my group of military Swedish Mausers and of course to punch paper . I’d also like to have one of the Swedish Mauser scoped sniper rifles and yes I’d kill a deer with it lols !
 
Tikka has dropped the 6.5x55 SE from a whole bunch of its models, e.g. the standard T3x Lite. It declares "Now available in 6.5 Creedmoor!" in bright orange writing instead. It is available in the T3x Sporter though, which is a target type rifle.

Sako has dropped the 6.5x55 SE for the new S20.

Howa has dropped the 6.5x55 SE altogether, last year.

CZ has one model left in 6.5x55 SE, a classic timbered version of the 557.

Browning has... dropped the 6.5x55 SE in favour of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 6.5 PRC.

I'm going to stop there. I think it was a wise move to add 6.5 Creedmoor to your ticket.

At some point the sentimentality for an ancient cartridge design will wear off, and the reality of modern 30-40° straight walled super-efficient cartridges will sink in.

For what you want to do, you won't be disappointed with a 6.5 Creedmoor. Time to take a "get over it" pill and move on into a bright new future!
 
Im not the overly sentimental type luckily for me.
You’re right tho the choice in CM is excellent. Now the hard part of making a decision is next.
 
300-400.000 competition shooters in Scandinavia are exclusively shooting 6,5x55 each week..

And have been doing so since 1890s..


Finally the Americans have seen the light... funded by massive advertisement money.
 
300-400.000 competition shooters in Scandinavia are exclusively shooting 6,5x55 each week..

And have been doing so since 1890s..


Finally the Americans have seen the light... funded by massive advertisement money.

Not really, if you can't shoot it semi-auto out of an AR platform it won't work in America.

.308 AR-10 turns into a 6.5CM in one barrel change, even the mags work.
 
Tikka has dropped the 6.5x55 SE from a whole bunch of its models, e.g. the standard T3x Lite. It declares "Now available in 6.5 Creedmoor!" in bright orange writing instead. It is available in the T3x Sporter though, which is a target type rifle.

Sako has dropped the 6.5x55 SE for the new S20.

Howa has dropped the 6.5x55 SE altogether, last year.

CZ has one model left in 6.5x55 SE, a classic timbered version of the 557.

Browning has... dropped the 6.5x55 SE in favour of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 6.5 PRC.

I'm going to stop there. I think it was a wise move to add 6.5 Creedmoor to your ticket.

At some point the sentimentality for an ancient cartridge design will wear off, and the reality of modern 30-40° straight walled super-efficient cartridges will sink in.

For what you want to do, you won't be disappointed with a 6.5 Creedmoor. Time to take a "get over it" pill and move on into a bright new future!

You’re right, the swede is done for tikka only list

8 tikka t3x lites listed in 6.5x55!!


2 variants for CZ which isn't bad as some models are only available in .308

Sako still offer it in the 85 . . . . . .
 
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I have now had 6.5CM added as a slot on my ticket. So the choices are much increased now.

Will be looking at Ruger rpr / Remington 700 prc / Tikka tac a1 or UPR / HOWA 1500 oryx / Savage stealth etc.
Does anyone have any one of these they recommend or do not recommend!?
I have shot a Tikka tac a1 for over a year now and i'm still the weak link, really great straight out of the box, I have the 20" next time i'll go a bit longer. RPR have their fans but while a bit lighter just never seem as nicely made. The Begerra is worth a look if you enjoy buying after market parts as its remington compatible. Both the Tiktac and the RPR have a growing number of Pre-Fit barrel options at advantageous prices.
 
I asked my mate that works for Beretta Aus to explain, @25 Sharps, but haven’t heard back yet. As soon as I do, I will report findings.

I maintain the position that when you compare the relative efficiency of the widely available 6.5mm cartridges, then there really is only one winner. The Creedmoor fixed the problems with bullet weight & weight, twist rate, max COAL and powder charge for a given velocity, as well as delivering the mysterious “inherent accuracy”.
 
I asked my mate that works for Beretta Aus to explain, @25 Sharps, but haven’t heard back yet. As soon as I do, I will report findings.

I maintain the position that when you compare the relative efficiency of the widely available 6.5mm cartridges, then there really is only one winner. The Creedmoor fixed the problems with bullet weight & weight, twist rate, max COAL and powder charge for a given velocity, as well as delivering the mysterious “inherent accuracy”.


I was unaware there were issues with bullet weight or twist rate! Both my CZ 6.5 x55 and previous howa 6.5 CM are 1:8.5, haven't measured the twist on the new Howa and both 1:8.5 shoot the same bullets equally well, literally nothing in it! The CZ will shoot 3/4" at 200 yards which is accurate enough for me as I don't shoot deer at the distances you do.

Don't get me wrong, I really like the creedmoor, have had one for 5 years now and am on my second rifle but the 6.5x55is still a great cartridge and for most people won't be able to shoot the difference that the 'inherent accuracy' of the creedmoor affords. The only real world difference when shooting home loads in a modern action is the swede requires a long action, the Swede is so good even Ackley didn't think it needed to be improved ;)

In fact according to Nosler, who used to have a disclaimer that their load data is for modern action in 6.5 x55 only, the swede surpasses the creedmoor velocity wise with a 142 gr with 4 loads giving higher top velocities than the highest creedmoor load, and the creedmoor test barrel is 1" longer!! This is proper, published, pressure tested load data not somethineg mates, mate is achieving and its safe as he's 'getting no pressure signs'.

6.5 X 55 Swedish Mauser Load Data - Nosler 2790 fps for the swede 23" barrel

Vs

6.5 Creedmoor Load Data - Nosler 2731 fps for the creed 24" barrel
 
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why?
6.5x55 mag length is usually longer and on a long action enabling better use of the extremely long VLD bullets available
the case is bigger
the cartridge has greater velocity potential if loaded to modern action standards
The bullets don't know what cartridge they were in when they leave the muzzle....

Anyone who can actually demonstrate the (largely theoretical) internal ballistic advantage of a Creedmoor over any other 6.5 cartridge probably isn't on here as they are too busy working for Berger or Applied Ballistics or winning the King of 2 Mile....

So are you telling us you can load a 30-30 to 4400bar just because you run it in a modern action?
You need to respect the SAAMI or CIP pressure limits of each cartridge as well as action limitations. Even the higher CIP pressure rating of the SKAN, or 6.5x55 is way below the pressure rating of a 6.5CM. I have not heard of a +P 6.5x55 with thicker brass cases. Every cartridge case is designed to only take a certain pressure range.
I never understand why some try to load a 6.5x55 over the pressure limit, why not get a 6.5 284 etc. Also the 6.5CM is what it is... not a 6.5 284 either. If you respect the pressure limits my guess is the 6.5CM will have the upper hand in a short barrel, the 6.5x55 might be better with a long barrel. Just a guess though.
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So are you telling us you can load a 30-30 to 4400bar just because you run it in a modern action?
You need to respect the SAAMI or CIP pressure limits of each cartridge as well as action limitations. Even the higher CIP pressure rating of the SKAN, or 6.5x55 is way below the pressure rating of a 6.5CM. I have not heard of a +P 6.5x55 with thicker brass cases. Every cartridge case is designed to only take a certain pressure range.
I never understand why some try to load a 6.5x55 over the pressure limit, why not get a 6.5 284 etc. Also the 6.5CM is what it is... not a 6.5 284 either. If you respect the pressure limits my guess is the 6.5CM will have the upper hand in a short barrel, the 6.5x55 might be better with a long barrel. Just a guess though.
edi
See my post with respective published load data, 6.5x55 wins out by 40-60 fps even with a shorter barrel by 1", both cartridges bur roughly the same powders, the same amount under the same bulllets there's nothing on it!!
 
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