Price of dogs
- Thread starter Henroy
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Waz, it was a simple throwaway analogy.
Most people who sell a litter will make a profit, some will be making a bigger profit than others, especially currently. Any "profit" we have made from our litters has been ploughed back into the dogs via quality kennels, trailer, feeding, and funding the cost of trialing etc
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gelert
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It wouod be interesting to know if the puppies Ive seen for sale at £1200-1800 are sold as working pups to working homes.
My Springer was £450 3 years ago, incidentally my lab was £400 11 years ago.
Bith from excellent parentage and have proven to be great dogs.
I had herd of a lad locally selling lurcher pups at £150,untill his wife said to up the price to £1000.
Apparently the phone hasnt stopped and could have sold the litter 3 times over.
I also know of a local farmer breeding mongrels for a grand and their all sold before they're born.
Not sure what will happen in a years time, they'll either plateu back to normal or there's going to be an influx of rescue dogs available.
I dont begrudge anyone asking whatever they want, but money talks.
My Springer was £450 3 years ago, incidentally my lab was £400 11 years ago.
Bith from excellent parentage and have proven to be great dogs.
I had herd of a lad locally selling lurcher pups at £150,untill his wife said to up the price to £1000.
Apparently the phone hasnt stopped and could have sold the litter 3 times over.
I also know of a local farmer breeding mongrels for a grand and their all sold before they're born.
Not sure what will happen in a years time, they'll either plateu back to normal or there's going to be an influx of rescue dogs available.
I dont begrudge anyone asking whatever they want, but money talks.
Free range rob
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This thread Sounds to me like a way to ease the guilt of overpriced puppies,
If everyone had the best intentions for ALL dogs, then prices would be low and stay low, put the puppy farms out of business and stop 85% of dog thefts for breeding litters out of.
If everyone had the best intentions for ALL dogs, then prices would be low and stay low, put the puppy farms out of business and stop 85% of dog thefts for breeding litters out of.
CarlW
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I'm sure it was. However, it does actually get right to the root of the problem: are dogs just another asset to be traded, or do they hold some kind of special status?
And, if so, what about a sheep? Or, in my context, a lion? Or a pet snake...? Or, or or...?
For me, dogs are different. They are an animal...but with an asterisk next to their name. A bit special.
For others, they are a commodity to be traded: just like venison.
Most of us will seek to deal with those people who share our answer to the above question.
So it appears we agree in the wider context, good I'm glad.
CarlW
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We agree that you got to the nub of the issue much faster than the rest of us.
Waz77
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Way I see it, if a working dog is as good as the owner thinks any prospective pups will be spoken for before the mating has even taken place, so you won't need to worry about pricing to screen out would be buyers. If you think the price of pups has gone silly but you're going along with it anyway you are part of the problem, part of the reason why prices are silly and why dogs are being stolen en masse. Only when people realise that you can get better bred pups for a fraction of the price will people stop paying silly money for them
I struggle with the “the dog is a tool and nothing more” brigade - I’m inclined to think you shouldn’t have one if that’s the case - service dogs aside - there’s no reason a dog can’t be a tool AND a part of the family if it’s trained properly. Many of the military mutts have shown this.
the only ones I know of that struggle with this are police/defence attack dogs.
To have a dog die and have no feelings about it other than a tool that needs to be replaced is not something I would ever be able to do.
regards,
Gixer
the only ones I know of that struggle with this are police/defence attack dogs.
To have a dog die and have no feelings about it other than a tool that needs to be replaced is not something I would ever be able to do.
regards,
Gixer
CarlW
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Police and security dogs (even the high-drive non-compliance / firearms-support dogs) are as close to their handlers as any pampered pooch. Like all dogs, care needed around children.
plonker
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Beat me too itSo when will you be advertising these pups at a ridiculously inflated priceSounds like you're trying to justify your greed already?
Unfortunately that’s not always the case - many service dogs had to be euthanised after deployments. And if have heard the same on police dogs in some cases.
CarlW
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It is rare for police dogs. The really crazy ones often end up with me...
Gsd99
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Free range rob
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Nowt wrong with the dogs, plenty of bad owners and idiots have ruined many a good malinois.
One of my mine is a part time gundog and would put a few shoot dogs to shame
One of my mine is a part time gundog and would put a few shoot dogs to shame
Gsd99
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Definitely mate, one of the most versatile breeds on earth in the right hands
woody
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How very true, the older people I know who have lived in the countryside all their lives and have had dogs laugh when they hear these prices and yet they are able to offer the best home environment
That breaks the trend and good to see it can be done, your avatar commando memorial near spean bridge, like it!
I have always been against selling pups. I have just had a litter of 8 kc registered springers from working parents. I gave every pup away for free. Only to working homes of people that I knew, the litter cost me a fair bit of money, but I didn’t breed off of them to make money. I bred them to carry on a cracking working line and to keep a pup myself.
CarlW
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Respect to that man. The world would be a better place with more like you.
Interesting thread and, as before, lots of different viewpoints. A few thoughts of my own...
1.) Selecting the 'right' home is more than just finding a 'good' home - and that alone can be hard enough. Finding the right home can come down to individuals in a litter and not just your breed type. Many breeds featured on this forum are high energy or high prey drive or both, that requires more than just a 'good' home regardless of the price tag.
2.) The old notion of 'gifting' pups might work in some circles but for me, once bitten twice shy. I know many others who have had the rough end of this deal.
3.) The price that a seller places on a litter should be based on what they believe they are worth based on rearing, quality of parents, quality of ancestry. Homework/research is vital.
4.) The price that a buyer is prepared to pay should be based on what they believe they are worth based on rearing, quality of parents, quality of ancestry.Homework/research is vital.
5.) A high price does not weed out poor owners. If you earn £250k a year spending £3k on a pup is not such a big deal.
6.) If dog owners only bred for their own use or to continue a bloodline for themselves, there quite simply would not be enough pups to go round. Simple maths. Most of us on here would be on 5-10 year waiting lists at best.
7.) I do find it odd when people are happy to pay £400 for a hunting jacket and £250 on hunting boots but think that £1000 for a puppy is too much.
1.) Selecting the 'right' home is more than just finding a 'good' home - and that alone can be hard enough. Finding the right home can come down to individuals in a litter and not just your breed type. Many breeds featured on this forum are high energy or high prey drive or both, that requires more than just a 'good' home regardless of the price tag.
2.) The old notion of 'gifting' pups might work in some circles but for me, once bitten twice shy. I know many others who have had the rough end of this deal.
3.) The price that a seller places on a litter should be based on what they believe they are worth based on rearing, quality of parents, quality of ancestry. Homework/research is vital.
4.) The price that a buyer is prepared to pay should be based on what they believe they are worth based on rearing, quality of parents, quality of ancestry.Homework/research is vital.
5.) A high price does not weed out poor owners. If you earn £250k a year spending £3k on a pup is not such a big deal.
6.) If dog owners only bred for their own use or to continue a bloodline for themselves, there quite simply would not be enough pups to go round. Simple maths. Most of us on here would be on 5-10 year waiting lists at best.
7.) I do find it odd when people are happy to pay £400 for a hunting jacket and £250 on hunting boots but think that £1000 for a puppy is too much.
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